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Old Aug 25, 2022 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Lite4d
That sounds just like what I dealt with. I’m also on the third dealership. The second one said “they updated all the modules”. Lo and behold, with yours and Livinitup’s help, it showed they didn’t. My service advisor was very surprised when I showed him what you guys gave me and kept it for another day and told me again that they updated them. Which that didn’t happen either. Now, my left side speakers have cut out twice and my alarm wouldn’t set the other day so I’m sure they screwed something up. So I’m going back to the second dealership to give them another shot at correcting it. So we will see.
Being as charitable as humanly possible, this all sounds like a company that is really good at cars failing miserably at software engineering, pretty much from top to bottom.
It's pretty clear that, starting at the top, Ford has some significant development, configuration, testing, and revision control issues. They clearly have not mastered the art of software engineering. Moving down the pipe, it's also clear that the dealer network is pretty good at oil changes, replacing air filters, tires and spark plugs, but simply doesn't have the expertise, tools, or mindset necessary to manage what has essentially become a software product. No surprise, really. Imagine if Ford was responsible for updating the OS on your laptop, using the 'geniuses' (mechanics) at its 'genius bar' (dealerships). Doesn't seem like that would go well.

I know this is no help whatsoever to you guys struggling with these crippling issues, I'm really sorry about that. For what it's worth, I would bet my bottom dollar that all other car companies are struggling with the exact same issues albeit with varying degrees of severity (I would guess that Tesla's issues are somewhat less profound, but there nonetheless). The hell of it is that the market is pushing these companies, with inadequate capabilities, to develop and deploy these "features" with inadequate development or testing and without appropriate configuration and revision control mechanisms in place. It makes me crazy, for example, that Tesla is using the public roadways to beta test its self driving cars, at the expense of its customers and every other user of the roads out there. How many dead Tesla customers is considered "acceptable"?

These are lessons that the software companies have (partially) grappled with over the last couple of decades (who hasn't been the victim of a poorly tested s/w "update"?), the difference in this case is that we're talking about a couple of tons of steel moving down the road under the force of 400+hp engines...a lethal combination.
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Old Aug 25, 2022 | 08:23 PM
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I left my F-150 with dealer for 10 days. They cant get all updates to work. They said some of them worked but I should try to update remaining at home because they were told it works better?? How do I force an update on my WiFi? Any advice appreciated. 1FTFW1EDXMFB61680
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Old Aug 25, 2022 | 10:45 PM
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So, I reached out to my new service advisor at the new dealer I took my truck to on Monday a little ago and asked him if he knew that nobody had touched my truck in over 48 hours. He tells me he'll go speak to the tech. He says the tech says my truck is "stuck" and he cannot initiate the update on my truck and that he opened a case with Ford and is waiting for them to respond. I then ask my advisor if he knew for certain if the tech opened a case with Ford, or was the tech just telling him that to get him off of his back. He says he does not have access to the technician portal, so he does not know. I ask him to go back to the tech and ask, because if he did open a case, I was going to leave my truck there so they have it when Ford asks them to send the files. He calls me back and tells me I was right; the tech didn't feel like dealing with the hassle and he never opened a case. The tech says that the previous dealer must have messed something up when they tried to update the truck, because supposedly this tech has done the BC updates many times and has never had an issue until my truck ended up in his hands. All they were able to do was one update to the PCM and then got stuck at whatever came next.

So, I am back to square one. Going to schedule an appt with a third dealer for next week. Only 5 weeks left before the recall campaign for bluecruise programming expires.
That's not the update I wanted to hear.
Even though the campaign is ending the fact that you have had your truck into Ford and they have failed to fix it should require them to keep working to get it repaired past the campaign dates.
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Thurl_Ravenscroft
I left my F-150 with dealer for 10 days. They cant get all updates to work. They said some of them worked but I should try to update remaining at home because they were told it works better?? How do I force an update on my WiFi? Any advice appreciated. 1FTFW1EDXMFB61680
Your OTA dashboard says 2.7.3 failed three times in June on almost the exact dates that my truck failed 2.7.3 back in June. However, your recent trip to the dealership went a lot better than mine. They got you past that and up to 2.8.1. You got an OTA for 2.8.2 yesterday which failed. Go into your update settings and see if it lets you try to install it again.

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That's not the update I wanted to hear.
Even though the campaign is ending the fact that you have had your truck into Ford and they have failed to fix it should require them to keep working to get it repaired past the campaign dates.
As soon as they come across the slightest bit of resistance, they want to give up. No tech wants to be tied up for hours and hours doing updates that if they can't complete, they get paid $0 because without getting my truck up to date, they can't bill Ford not even a penny. My truck was there 4 days and they spent maybe 1.5 hours total time working on it. They updated one module, the second update gave them trouble, and they parked it. If I didn't have access to PTS, my truck would still be there sitting and I would not know any better. It's really pathetic.
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 11:10 AM
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Thank you for the reply. Why does my truck say 2.7.3 is the latest update, but your info is saying 2.8.1?
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Thurl_Ravenscroft
Thank you for the reply. Why does my truck say 2.7.3 is the latest update, but your info is saying 2.8.1?
PTS does not tell me what software version you have. I am ASSUMING you are at 2.8.1 because the OTA update that was pushed to your truck is for 2.8.2 which means you should have 2.8.1 already based on the updates your dealer performed in the past few days.
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rugedraw
PTS does not tell me what software version you have. I am ASSUMING you are at 2.8.1 because the OTA update that was pushed to your truck is for 2.8.2 which means you should have 2.8.1 already based on the updates your dealer performed in the past few days.
understood. Thank you again
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Thurl_Ravenscroft
understood. Thank you again
Anything the dealer does with FDRS will supersede the last OTA. The thing is, when the dealer updates your truck manually, the truck itself will not recognize that and it will still say it is on the latest update it received via OTA. Your dealer must have gotten you to at least 2.8.1 if you're getting 2.8.2 sent to you. If you can get 2.8.2 to go through, I'm sure your truck will say you have 2.8.2 at that point since you got it via an OTA.
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Old Aug 27, 2022 | 01:05 AM
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Think I discovered a new requirement with the latest OTA update.

Use to be you could allow the truck, when using adaptive cruise, to slow down to zero. When traffic started moving, so did the truck.

Now you have to press resume before it moves off again. I'm ok with this. Just a small thing, but proves you are paying attention.
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Old Aug 27, 2022 | 02:21 PM
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There was a GWM software update that appeared this morning in FDRS and after I completed it an APIM update then appeared in FDRS and I did that also so now I have:


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