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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 02:40 PM
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I buy these all the time....
https://indigosoftwarecompany.com/pr...rsion-download

EDIT: For 30 more dollars, you can go with 2019 - but I don't have any experience with 2019. If it is anything like 365, I dislike it, LOL
https://indigosoftwarecompany.com/pr...rsion-download
Thanks, White. I figured it was you. Since I realized that, I found the link you posted previously: https://clearanceproducts.instant-software-store.com/

Since I don;t need the latest & greatest, I think Office 2016 for $28 will be the way to go.
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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 02:59 PM
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The past couple of times I've tried to buy stuff from ISS it didn't work, and they did not respond to my messages. Just an FYI....
Old Nov 1, 2019 | 04:18 PM
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The past couple of times I've tried to buy stuff from ISS it didn't work, and they did not respond to my messages. Just an FYI....
Ahh OK. Thanks for the heads up.

EDIT: Yeah, I might want to steer clear of them: -- https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...6-689dcf800b89 and https://www.bbb.org/us/pa/center-val...173/complaints
EDIT2 - The complains in those links are form 2018. Weird.

I might do this, though:
Amazon Amazon

At least I'll have Amazon's backing if something goes awry.
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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 05:47 PM
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Wow, that's a god find. I never thought of looking on there. Thanks!

BTW, they WERE listed on Microsoft's website as a listed partner.... I'll have to see if I can find that again.
Old Nov 1, 2019 | 05:55 PM
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River, I think you are onto something and that would absolutely be a good question to ask. I honestly had so idea there were so many iterations of the PATS system. Since yours isnt part of the cluster that should make things esier depending on the route you decide to go.
Lol, honestly I have no idea what I'm going to go. More often than not the more I learn the less I know. About PATS it's become more like folklore. There's a lot of information out there that is nonsense to the reliable. A lot I've learned about which is which came from learning the hard way.

The real problem with the electronics of todays vehicles has to do with signals that are based on frequencies and pulse widths. The purely voltage signals based on a reference voltage aren't a problem. They may run slower but they still ID the same and the signal gets through. It's just a matter of wire matching. Signals that are based on pulse or frequency are designed to run on that years\gen of vehicle electronics. The CAN Bus is a multiplexed system and different vehicles and\or vehicle years aren't multiplexed at the same frequency or at the same timing. For example, a speedometer's voltage signal isn't all that critical but getting an injectors pulse timing correct is very critical to a running engine. So when different systems start to get swapped some intensive recalibration is required. And recalibration is difficult because most frequency and pulse width signals aren't linear. Calibrating on a sliding scale is required. This is really where most people ran in to problems when trying to mix electronics and unfortunately I think PATS carried a lot of the blame for the problems caused by mixing electronics when it had nothing to do with PATS at all. Oddly enough, blaming PATS is understandable because of the theft light. The circuit that initiates the light doesn't distinguish a circuit that has been shut down from one that simply is unable to communicate. It's this kind of error that created situations where a vehicle would run even though theft light was on. It's just another idiot light and isn't integral to the operation of the anti-theft system.

This is how it's all been explained to me anyway. The problem I have to overcome to maintain my instrument cluster is the Ford Performance PCM does nothing but run the engine except for the addition of the ability to adjust electronic steering which has since also been removed. Using the two switches is interesting because that may solve some of my potential problems. My reasons for doing it would be different from Patmans because of the differences in PCM's but the effect may be the same.

Thanks for your thoughts. They help.

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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 06:04 PM
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Wow, that's a god find. I never thought of looking on there. Thanks!

BTW, they WERE listed on Microsoft's website as a listed partner.... I'll have to see if I can find that again.
Yep. I kinda stumbled upon it. Going to place my order for two copies this evening.

And yes, ISS is still listed.
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I thought you fellers might enjoy this.... I know I do.

Old Nov 2, 2019 | 01:44 AM
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Nice story. I'd like to have that blue LX notch in the background at the garage.
Old Nov 2, 2019 | 02:11 AM
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Me too... when it comes to Fox's, I'd take one of each, LOL.

EDIT: My memory kicked in... is this the one you mean? She's a hatch...



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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 02:15 AM
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I thought you fellers might enjoy this.... I know I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGmWPZtEUpE
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