The Leveling Kit Thread
So, yes, above 2.5" front lift on an otherwise stock truck will create unfavorable angles to, and stress the front drive CVs... but then there's the issue of suspension geometry at lifts any higher. This is why the 4" and 6" kits provide components to relocate lower control arm pivot points, longer uprights (hubs/spindles), etc...
Why more people don't do a 4" is beyond me. Seems to be just about perfect. I'd do it but I don't want to do all that additional work! and besides, I'm saving up to do a locking rear axle assembly.
Why more people don't do a 4" is beyond me. Seems to be just about perfect. I'd do it but I don't want to do all that additional work! and besides, I'm saving up to do a locking rear axle assembly.
Gotta throw in my two cents here too. I'd love to do a 4". But I also live in an area where semis are blown off the highway daily, where a 25 mph cross wind is a mild drive. And where an hours drive to the next town with gas is a leisure cruise.
The same reason I don't understand why people in the suburbs even spend money on 4WD. Then I realize we all have different needs in our rigs. Be it comfort, image, function, or whatever. I'll be most impressed if I make it through winter without sliding off the road at least once.
Most of us go to work to earn money to pay for this stuff. In addition we earn the right to spend it in ways that make others wonder "Why?".
My 1.75" - 2" lift will give me enough clearance to get through/over most of the snow drifts and still keep me close enough to the ground so my truck doesn't become a kite on the highway. I've talked to some high lift folks and know why I decided the way I did.
The same reason I don't understand why people in the suburbs even spend money on 4WD. Then I realize we all have different needs in our rigs. Be it comfort, image, function, or whatever. I'll be most impressed if I make it through winter without sliding off the road at least once.
Most of us go to work to earn money to pay for this stuff. In addition we earn the right to spend it in ways that make others wonder "Why?".
My 1.75" - 2" lift will give me enough clearance to get through/over most of the snow drifts and still keep me close enough to the ground so my truck doesn't become a kite on the highway. I've talked to some high lift folks and know why I decided the way I did.
Sometimes the answer is a question- why was it not built level?
I understand towing, hauling, etc. However, 90% of the trucks you see aren't hauling or towing. So they're built to look level for a task maybe once a year? Why not build them level and install airbags. Not everyone wants to have their heads in the clouds with an 8"lift, some just don't want their truck to have a muscle car stance.
Out of all the trucks or jeeps made, how many ever haul or tow? How many go off-road, or ever even leave pavement? Why put straight pipes or glasspacks on anything? Rarely is the minimal performance boost even negligible. How many corvettes, Porsches, etc, ever visit a racetrack or dragstrip?
I've had cars that will go through as much snow as my truck. My awd ford 500 would literally push snow, with snow coming up over the hood, and keep going, no problems. Snow shouldn't be the major qualifying factor in getting a truck nowadays, when there are so many awd vehicles, crossovers etc, available. Who even NEEDS a truck, really? Not many.
It's about personalization and making it what you want it to be, not necessarily what you NEED it to be.
I understand towing, hauling, etc. However, 90% of the trucks you see aren't hauling or towing. So they're built to look level for a task maybe once a year? Why not build them level and install airbags. Not everyone wants to have their heads in the clouds with an 8"lift, some just don't want their truck to have a muscle car stance.
Out of all the trucks or jeeps made, how many ever haul or tow? How many go off-road, or ever even leave pavement? Why put straight pipes or glasspacks on anything? Rarely is the minimal performance boost even negligible. How many corvettes, Porsches, etc, ever visit a racetrack or dragstrip?
I've had cars that will go through as much snow as my truck. My awd ford 500 would literally push snow, with snow coming up over the hood, and keep going, no problems. Snow shouldn't be the major qualifying factor in getting a truck nowadays, when there are so many awd vehicles, crossovers etc, available. Who even NEEDS a truck, really? Not many.
It's about personalization and making it what you want it to be, not necessarily what you NEED it to be.
Sometimes the answer is a question- why was it not built level?
I understand towing, hauling, etc. However, 90% of the trucks you see aren't hauling or towing. So they're built to look level for a task maybe once a year? Why not build them level and install airbags. Not everyone wants to have their heads in the clouds with an 8"lift, some just don't want their truck to have a muscle car stance.
I understand towing, hauling, etc. However, 90% of the trucks you see aren't hauling or towing. So they're built to look level for a task maybe once a year? Why not build them level and install airbags. Not everyone wants to have their heads in the clouds with an 8"lift, some just don't want their truck to have a muscle car stance.
Preaching to the choir.
So have you leveled or lifted your truck?
my "sermon" was in defense to the previous poster for all those who may not need or even make good use of a lift or level.
to answer your question, though- no. it does have bags in the rear, but is not leveled or lifted. I really don't care for the lowered front end, but have other fish to fry in life, other money-sucking issues that prevent me from pouring money into my truck right now. I'll consider leveling it when i replace the front suspension.
to answer your question, though- no. it does have bags in the rear, but is not leveled or lifted. I really don't care for the lowered front end, but have other fish to fry in life, other money-sucking issues that prevent me from pouring money into my truck right now. I'll consider leveling it when i replace the front suspension.
Sometimes the answer is a question- why was it not built level?
I understand towing, hauling, etc. However, 90% of the trucks you see aren't hauling or towing. So they're built to look level for a task maybe once a year? Why not build them level and install airbags. Not everyone wants to have their heads in the clouds with an 8"lift, some just don't want their truck to have a muscle car stance.
Out of all the trucks or jeeps made, how many ever haul or tow? How many go off-road, or ever even leave pavement? Why put straight pipes or glasspacks on anything? Rarely is the minimal performance boost even negligible. How many corvettes, Porsches, etc, ever visit a racetrack or dragstrip?
I've had cars that will go through as much snow as my truck. My awd ford 500 would literally push snow, with snow coming up over the hood, and keep going, no problems. Snow shouldn't be the major qualifying factor in getting a truck nowadays, when there are so many awd vehicles, crossovers etc, available. Who even NEEDS a truck, really? Not many.
It's about personalization and making it what you want it to be, not necessarily what you NEED it to be.
I understand towing, hauling, etc. However, 90% of the trucks you see aren't hauling or towing. So they're built to look level for a task maybe once a year? Why not build them level and install airbags. Not everyone wants to have their heads in the clouds with an 8"lift, some just don't want their truck to have a muscle car stance.
Out of all the trucks or jeeps made, how many ever haul or tow? How many go off-road, or ever even leave pavement? Why put straight pipes or glasspacks on anything? Rarely is the minimal performance boost even negligible. How many corvettes, Porsches, etc, ever visit a racetrack or dragstrip?
I've had cars that will go through as much snow as my truck. My awd ford 500 would literally push snow, with snow coming up over the hood, and keep going, no problems. Snow shouldn't be the major qualifying factor in getting a truck nowadays, when there are so many awd vehicles, crossovers etc, available. Who even NEEDS a truck, really? Not many.
It's about personalization and making it what you want it to be, not necessarily what you NEED it to be.
I really don't care for the lowered front end, but have other fish to fry in life, other money-sucking issues that prevent me from pouring money into my truck right now.
We can certainly understand THAT. Who hasn't been there? The first thing I did 'cuz it was on the cheap was a pair of 1" lowering shackles to cut some of the stinkbug stance... and good shocks (B5100s). Three years later I upped the ante. Bigger Bilsteins, put the rear ride height back to where it was originally (when empty). Still only did a 1.5" "level" because I carry roughly 400 lbs in the bed 24/7/365...
I took my wife to a community vacc site yesterday for her Educator shot and was more or less confined to park in a concrete structure (so she could to the "Walk In" rather than have us wait in the three-hour automobile line).
If I had I had a 4"+ lift I guess they would have had to park me out in the open near the Law Enforcement that was there to maintain order. LOL.
I digress...
Last edited by Apples; Mar 4, 2021 at 10:12 AM.







