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Old Feb 24, 2022 | 02:00 AM
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Yeah, it's not like Ford has teams of engineers designing these systems for the best overall performance, drivability, and fuel economy or anything.

I am surprised, though, AK, that the CAI had that large an impact on that many factors.
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Old Feb 24, 2022 | 09:27 AM
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That damn 3V didn't like any changes at all without a tune. Kept telling my friend to get a factory intake for his F150 (the one I put the motor in) because it would run fine until you gave it the beans, then it would lean out. He wound up selling the truck now... but it woulda been easier to buy a factory intake, I think.

They aren't like EEC-IV where it'll take about anything you throw at it and make it work.

Old Feb 24, 2022 | 01:13 PM
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It was about 55 degrees today, so I drove Frankie over there (it has no heater). First time hitting the freeway with Frankie, and it did very, very well. I am leaking a bit of oil out of the PCV hose, where it goes into the intake. Kind of wondering if removing the EGR valve is affecting it. I only removed it because it was leaking, and I had a block off plate already. I've always planned on putting it back on - but this is going to speed that plan up.
The EGR valve should be here on Saturday. We got about 5 inches of snow overnight, but it looks like it's melting pretty quick today. Really "powdery" stuff this go around. Hopefully I can squeeze in a drive this weekend and see how Frankie does. I'm thinking with FUNCTIONING EGR, it ought to run a little better. It has never worked correctly since I bought it. The original valve was the source of a bad vacuum leak.
Old Feb 24, 2022 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OhioLariat
Yeah, it's not like Ford has teams of engineers designing these systems for the best overall performance, drivability, and fuel economy or anything.

I am surprised, though, AK, that the CAI had that large an impact on that many factors.
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Think of it as a major vacuum leak. That is what this big oversized tube is creating. The TB is 3" ovalish, the K&N is 3" at the TB and is adapted to 4" to the MAF. After the MAF the air filter on this unit. There are 4 places to leak, and 1 of them was most likely leaking, or the sheer volume of air was overwhelming the PCM I was running lean as hell. Now, the fuel trims are back to normal and the 02's are reading fully.

Too much air, also caused shift point changes thru the PCM. Like holding the shifts longer, or quick shifts if you let off the gas. Nothing wild, you could just feel it and sometimes held the shift points longer. Now it's reset, it's using my driving style to set the control points. So much better now. A tune would have cured these small problems and I could have stayed with the K&N.

Old Feb 24, 2022 | 04:38 PM
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Well crap.... guess I won't see it this weekend after all.




Old Feb 24, 2022 | 07:02 PM
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Well crap.... guess I won't see it this weekend after all.

You might. Not sure if that's Amazon, I've had Amazon deliveries show up on Sunday in the past.
Old Feb 24, 2022 | 07:28 PM
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It's Ebay, so who the hell knows, LOL. Also, it's USPS.
Old Feb 24, 2022 | 07:33 PM
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Check out this K&N chart for the Edge. Not a hell of a lot of improvement for a $450 item. LOL


Old Feb 24, 2022 | 09:06 PM
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So the Edge came with a K&N from the PO, your just trying to right things ?
Old Feb 24, 2022 | 10:03 PM
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Those numbers are misleading IMO anyway. Sure, it might make more power out of the box. But test that POS after a guy hasn't cleaned it for 3 or 4 years because he has a "lifetime filter" and see the results. Or lets see the results after someone doesn't oil it properly, and the MAF is caked with oil.



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