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Old May 9, 2019 | 09:43 AM
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Do any of you guys have experience with these? Just wondering how durable they are....

https://www.jegs.com/p/Gates/Gates-P...FYS8KgodiRUACw

Old May 9, 2019 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by white89gt
Do any of you guys have experience with these? Just wondering how durable they are....

https://www.jegs.com/p/Gates/Gates-P...FYS8KgodiRUACw

I use a Milton crimper and brass ferrules, -

https://www.miltonindustries.com/milton-catalog

Page 47.

But the Gates shrink clamps, I'd like to try. Anything to do with hot fluid, having a clamp that expands under heat and pressure is the best. You definitely don't want a worm clamp, they are the worst UNLESS you use an expansion type worm clamp. They make them, I've used them, don't like them. They look terrible and don't have much clamping pressure.

BTW, I use the Milton because you can due trans lines with as well. I also use a hydraulic crimper for large and small. The Milton only goes up to 5/8 (some 5/8 / thin wall). The Hydralic crimper I use for everything, even battery cables, -

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16-Ton-Hydr...a30c5a4fcede36

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Old May 9, 2019 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by white89gt
No.... just hand tight in there, lol. So they will suck in a bit.

This is what I would like to find.... there was a guy making these on moddedmustangs, but he has not logged on for 3 years.... so I doubt he's still around. But as you can see, it is a MUCH cleaner look. I also think he may have been making them from these:

https://www.cjponyparts.com/5-8-heater-hose-90-degree-fitting-1-2-thread/p/FS84776/







Drilling and taping the fitting in your link would be easy to do.
Old May 9, 2019 | 07:23 PM
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I've never tried those shrink-fit "clamps." they look like factory ones I've cut off, though. Looks like clean solution.

If you're not going to run a heater core, why not cap the heater-hose water pump outlet, and just install the ECT sensor right into the intake? (I haven't looked at mine today, so could I be missing something?)
Old May 9, 2019 | 07:36 PM
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I've heard of the rubber cap coming off in high RPM situations. I've also had issues with rubber plugs (EGR plate lines) rotting out and leaking on mine. I wish I would have kept my old Edelbrock pump and had it rebuilt. The fittings in the pump are threaded.... and quite honestly, I think my high flow Duralast pump outflows the E-brock.

I am at school right now, but I started modifying one of my Explorer pipes. Woulda probably been done, but I need to get a get some Dremel wheels to cut the tabs that holds the two pipes together. When I cut it, the metal sure looked like aluminum to me. Might be a really lightweight steel though. All this time I thought it was brass.
Old May 9, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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BUT... that Gates clamp is something I was looking at to prevent the cap from popping off the pump. Forgot to mention that above.
Old May 9, 2019 | 07:42 PM
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That would be my choice for clean, but if the cap (Gates Clamp) comes off as you say, that would end it. I mean, what good would that worry be ?

I'd default right back to the Milton/Ford factory crimp.

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Old May 9, 2019 | 10:05 PM
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White, I'm not sure how much room you have, but what about a 180° hose right at the pump connecting the in and out?
Old May 9, 2019 | 10:13 PM
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I need the other port on the pump for the bypass on the stat housing.

Or.... maybe I am misunderstanding your question?
Old May 9, 2019 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by white89gt
No.... just hand tight in there, lol. So they will suck in a bit.

This is what I would like to find.... there was a guy making these on moddedmustangs, but he has not logged on for 3 years.... so I doubt he's still around. But as you can see, it is a MUCH cleaner look. I also think he may have been making them from these:

https://www.cjponyparts.com/5-8-heater-hose-90-degree-fitting-1-2-thread/p/FS84776/




Yea, I like that, probably the way to go. The fitting tube is positioned correctly to avoid an air pocket directly under the sensor...sucks when you get one there for some, but only if you don't know what's going on lol. You have to crack bleed the sensor, for this reason Ford updated THAT fitting for gen 10's. Not many realized it had been updated. The fitting pictured shouldn't have that issue.

Keep in mind you could always T a hose for the sensor, doesn't matter which. WATTS has T's for all sizes.

Mannn, those worm clamps make me sick lol.



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