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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostr

that Ive driven the truck for awhile with the leveling kit and new Sumitomo Encounter AT LTs I can feel every divot, crack, stone etc etc. in the road.


What tire Cold Inflation Pressures are you running on these new LTs?

​​​​​​​And what "kit"?
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 12:48 PM
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RC 2" Level, According to my cluster 36 PSI
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 01:28 PM
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I see. Thanks. Are you still on factory shocks? with the RC kit being a puck spacer above the factory shock/spring assembly?

I ask because I can only offer two suggestions to *slightly* decrease the new driving dynamics/feedback you are experiencing.

1. Try 35 psi cold (and go no lower, ever) - 1 lb pressure can make a difference, believe it or not, but that may be true only with a softer-sidewall P-Metric

2. Better dampers (shocks) will help to alleviate much of the dissatisfaction you may be feeling.

For example, when I replaced my stock dampers with Bilstein 5100s on all four corners, the general, going-straight-down-the-road ride quality felt more *firm* but it was not at all! harsh. Seems counterintuitive, but nonetheless it is true. With the 5100s, nose-dive under braking was drastically reduced, body roll during cornering was far less, and the axle hop under acceleration over rough roadway nearly dissappeared... and the overall rife was just plain better, even if more communicative of the roadway surface.

When after three years of this outstanding setup I swapped in a new set of 6112 up front and the 5160s out back, I thought I might have made a mistake (at first)... the ride was WAY more "taut". Dramatically moreso. Over a short period of time I have come to LOVE the way the truck drives now. It's better than before for the big bumps (in my mild offroading that I do) and while I feel more of the small stuff, the overall chassis control now is astonishing. It's like I'm driving a huge sports sedan but with some ground clearance for my desert BLM travel. I love it.
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 11:21 AM
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Hey guys, I have been doing a bunch of digging but have gotten confusing info. Right now my truck has 5100’s at the 2.1 setting. Unfortunately it’s still not level. Have been doing some research on adding the Eibach springs which would put me around 2.7. Has anyone done this? How does it ride? Which setting do you have your 5100’s at with the spring?
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerJ
Hey guys, I have been doing a bunch of digging but have gotten confusing info. Right now my truck has 5100’s at the 2.1 setting. Unfortunately it’s still not level. Have been doing some research on adding the Eibach springs which would put me around 2.7. Has anyone done this? How does it ride? Which setting do you have your 5100’s at with the spring?
I was like you not that long ago lol
started with the 5100 top setting but I wanted a little taller to clear my 35” better so I bought pro tune kit (control arm /3” spacer and 2.5” rear block ) but I tried to leave bilstien at 1” setting so I could get 4” total .... bad idea 👎 never do that rides terrible so I took bilstien down to oem size and now it rides ok but nothing like what u have now . In my opinion it’s not worth getting that extra inch for a ****ty ride truck
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 12:39 PM
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Anything beyond a 2.5 lift in front puts the control arms in an unfavorable position. This is why you don't see people doing anything beyond 2.5"... think Rancho Quick LIft.

With Bilstein the 2.1" of the 5100 Series is the maximum height. They know what they're doing. Pay attention.

You're better off investing in a 4" lift kit which restores the factory angles.
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Aldomont
I was like you not that long ago lol
started with the 5100 top setting but I wanted a little taller to clear my 35” better so I bought pro tune kit (control arm /3” spacer and 2.5” rear block ) but I tried to leave bilstien at 1” setting so I could get 4” total .... bad idea 👎 never do that rides terrible so I took bilstien down to oem size and now it rides ok but nothing like what u have now . In my opinion it’s not worth getting that extra inch for a ****ty ride truck
Thanks! I kind of expected this but wanted to hear from experience as I have seen some people say exactly that. I guess I will just leave it as is.
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Apples
Anything beyond a 2.5 lift in front puts the control arms in an unfavorable position. This is why you don't see people doing anything beyond 2.5"... think Rancho Quick LIft.

With Bilstein the 2.1" of the 5100 Series is the maximum height. They know what they're doing. Pay attention.

You're better off investing in a 4" lift kit which restores the factory angles.
Yeah this is my first truck I haven’t actually lifted. Now I have a 4 year old and another on the way soon so my wife really didn’t want this truck to be too high which is a fair argument.
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Apples
I see. Thanks. Are you still on factory shocks? with the RC kit being a puck spacer above the factory shock/spring assembly?

I ask because I can only offer two suggestions to *slightly* decrease the new driving dynamics/feedback you are experiencing.

1. Try 35 psi cold (and go no lower, ever) - 1 lb pressure can make a difference, believe it or not, but that may be true only with a softer-sidewall P-Metric

2. Better dampers (shocks) will help to alleviate much of the dissatisfaction you may be feeling.

For example, when I replaced my stock dampers with Bilstein 5100s on all four corners, the general, going-straight-down-the-road ride quality felt more *firm* but it was not at all! harsh. Seems counterintuitive, but nonetheless it is true. With the 5100s, nose-dive under braking was drastically reduced, body roll during cornering was far less, and the axle hop under acceleration over rough roadway nearly dissappeared... and the overall rife was just plain better, even if more communicative of the roadway surface.

When after three years of this outstanding setup I swapped in a new set of 6112 up front and the 5160s out back, I thought I might have made a mistake (at first)... the ride was WAY more "taut". Dramatically moreso. Over a short period of time I have come to LOVE the way the truck drives now. It's better than before for the big bumps (in my mild offroading that I do) and while I feel more of the small stuff, the overall chassis control now is astonishing. It's like I'm driving a huge sports sedan but with some ground clearance for my desert BLM travel. I love it.
Yeah i still have the factory shocks front and rear, although the rears are gonna get changed out with 5100 once my driveway is clear of all the snow. And by the way Are 5100 rears adjustable?
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 04:33 PM
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No, rears are 1 inch extra extension, not lift, so you can increase the rear lift (blocks) by up to one inch with the 5100's.
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