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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 11:24 PM
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Goot,
What wheels and tires are those?
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by breckfj



My '18 157" wheelbase with 2 in. level and Ford wheels wrapped with 275/65/20 BFG KO2.

looks great, can you still fit that in a std garage?
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 03:09 PM
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190303: (I paused my reading thru the thread @ post #1163 to write this)

There are many "things" that can be modified from their original configuration. Computers - trucks - tool boxes - tools - basements - audio systems etc. etc. We all like to modify something to make it better/faster/stronger/taller/louder/more aesthetically pleasing (or a combination of some of these attributes) And there are often many potential reasons why the owner of the "thing" wants to modify it. Okay.

And - often - there is more than one way to create the desired result (I'm not talking about manufacturers; I realize there are 2 or 11 or 79 different manufacturers of "something to make a difference". I'm talking about processes) If we desire better high end sound, we may add or upgrade tweeters. That's the process - and then we can choose which of the 1172 tweeter manufacturers we want to patronize. In the case of our trucks, if we want to lift the front end a little, we may choose to insert a spacer of some sort atop the OE struts (or upgrade/lengthen them). That's the process - and there are 39 different guys selling that solution. Or if we want to lift the front more than a little...we may choose to drop the diff. That's the process, and there are 59 different guys selling that solution.

What surprises me is this: there is apparently no overlap in the processes.

Want a lift of 2.5"? Spacers (or taller struts) Period.

Want a lift >3"? Diff-drop. Period.

But it seems apparent that ANY lift without a diff drop negatively impacts OE parts. CV joints, UCA's, ball joints, tire rods, sway bars, endlinks...to some degree they all suffer. But - apparently - the diff drop process eliminates 100% of the negative impact on everything. I bet there are all kinds of people who SETTLE for a lift of 2" or maybe 2.25" because any higher means a big jump in cost. But I also bet I'm not the only guy who wishes there was a best-of-both-worlds solution!

Why are there no diff drop kits for a 3.25" lift? Or a 3.75" lift?

I get that $$ is a factor; the strut spacer option is ideal for the guy who does not want (or cannot) lay down $1200 for a modest lift. Okay. But I believe that the majority of us would spend some extra money on an "ideal" solution if it meant eliminating 100% of the negative impact on everything.

But I may be mistaken - I'm no expert. I'm basing this opinion on impressions only. But I'm keen to learn!

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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DwntimeF150
Thanks , I was debating on a 3" lift which I still might do down the road , but for now this will have to do.
Hi. If indeed you decide to realize your wish for a 3" lift...what components (kit) would you select, please? And please elaborate on your plans to avoid excessive CV angle risk. Cheers and TIA!

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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgt 128
Goot,
What wheels and tires are those?
20x9 fuel tech with Nitto Ridge Grapplers
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ronemca
190303: (I paused my reading thru the thread @ post #1163 to write this)

There are many "things" that can be modified from their original configuration. Computers - trucks - tool boxes - tools - basements - audio systems etc. etc. We all like to modify something to make it better/faster/stronger/taller/louder/more aesthetically pleasing (or a combination of some of these attributes) And there are often many potential reasons why the owner of the "thing" wants to modify it. Okay.

And - often - there is more than one way to create the desired result (I'm not talking about manufacturers; I realize there are 2 or 11 or 79 different manufacturers of "something to make a difference". I'm talking about processes) If we desire better high end sound, we may add or upgrade tweeters. That's the process - and then we can choose which of the 1172 tweeter manufacturers we want to patronize. In the case of our trucks, if we want to lift the front end a little, we may choose to insert a spacer of some sort atop the OE struts (or upgrade/lengthen them). That's the process - and there are 39 different guys selling that solution. Or if we want to lift the front more than a little...we may choose to drop the diff. That's the process, and there are 59 different guys selling that solution.

What surprises me is this: there is apparently no overlap in the processes.

Want a lift of 2.5"? Spacers (or taller struts) Period.

Want a lift >3"? Diff-drop. Period.

But it seems apparent that ANY lift without a diff drop negatively impacts OE parts. CV joints, UCA's, ball joints, tire rods, sway bars, endlinks...to some degree they all suffer. But - apparently - the diff drop process eliminates 100% of the negative impact on everything. I bet there are all kinds of people who SETTLE for a lift of 2" or maybe 2.25" because any higher means a big jump in cost. But I also bet I'm not the only guy who wishes there was a best-of-both-worlds solution!

Why are there no diff drop kits for a 3.25" lift? Or a 3.75" lift?

I get that $$ is a factor; the strut spacer option is ideal for the guy who does not want (or cannot) lay down $1200 for a modest lift. Okay. But I believe that the majority of us would spend some extra money on an "ideal" solution if it meant eliminating 100% of the negative impact on everything.

But I may be mistaken - I'm no expert. I'm basing this opinion on impressions only. But I'm keen to learn!
I agree 100% with these statements. Why no diff drop for the smaller level's/lifts.
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 10:17 PM
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trying to verify dimensions...recently went from the 2007 to a 2016. Purchased a leveling kit but not sure I received what I ordered. The kit that was on the 2007 was a 2.5" and measured 1 11/16 tall, the one I just received is a 2.5 and measures 1 15/16 tall, seems it may be a 3". Any look up I do ,on most brands, shows the same application from 2004 thru 2018, so I don't know why there would be a 1/4" difference. Can anyone verify the size of either the 2.5 or the 3" Thanks
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2nd150
trying to verify dimensions...recently went from the 2007 to a 2016. Purchased a leveling kit but not sure I received what I ordered. The kit that was on the 2007 was a 2.5" and measured 1 11/16 tall, the one I just received is a 2.5 and measures 1 15/16 tall, seems it may be a 3". Any look up I do ,on most brands, shows the same application from 2004 thru 2018, so I don't know why there would be a 1/4" difference. Can anyone verify the size of either the 2.5 or the 3" Thanks
Aluminum body being lighter ?
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil48315
Aluminum body being lighter ?
That wouldn't have anything to do with the size of the spacer, the spacer supports the load,,doesn't change the spring tension/rate/height.

The question was ....can anyone verify the size of the spacers?
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Old Mar 5, 2019 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SHO4CY



Bilstein 5100's set at 2.1" and 270 lbs of sand in the bed for winter
Do you still have the factory tire size? I keep kicking around putting the Bilstein's all the way around but probably won't get bigger tires til mine are worn out.
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