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Don't have a 6-popper here, so I'm not sure, but it's certainly a vacuum line of some sort. Does it really matter what it is? Can you simply get a piece of heater hose to replace it? That should have enough structural integrity to not collapse like the garden hose.
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That's what I'm not sure of lol. Can I just take some regular vacuum hose and replace it? But also is that hose supposed to just feed into the lower hose or should there be a connector? I'm not sure what it's supposed to look like since the PO just put a garden hose on; clearly he doesn't fix anything correctly
Edit* pic didn't attach. I was talking about a different hose
Sorry if I seem scatterbrained. No time for projects and I have a lifetime of them. Trying to get sisters car in good shape before I leave cz I'm it's way hope, they don't take care of cars.
Found out this hose is the fuel vapor management hose... ak do you have a part # for it and or a cheaper hose? I can only find hoses for not my escape and they are all $70+.
Anyway replaced one vacuum hose and the pcv elbow. Misfire SEEMS to be gone but only went for a quick test drive, sluggishness on acceleration is there sometimes, not there other times. All other hoses besides the two aforementioned hoses are in good shape. Guess I will wait and see if a new CEL appears. Next time I'm in town I'll try to replace the garden hose with heater hose of the same Inside diameter.
Last edited by fordguy2100; Jul 1, 2018 at 03:58 PM.
Being vacuum, it has to be a tight seal, so yeah, it probably should have some kind of connector. You could use a short piece of copper pipe - 3/4" maybe - or an inline sweat coupler if you need it to be a bit bigger, then clamp down over it. I've had to get creative like that over the years. I have to think, though, it was a single piece at one point, and wonder if the PO simply cut that hose, and stuck the garden hose into the cut end hoping it would seal up.
That garden hose catastrophe is probably causing a vacuum leak, so until it's fixed, you'll likely still have issues.
P.S. When I first looked at your pics, I didn't realize it was the Escape. I was trying to figure out what kind of bulkhead connector would've been going through the fender-well!
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Last edited by OhioLariat; Jun 30, 2018 at 12:45 PM.
Dealer item I expect. Not sure what vehicle it is, but if it was replaced with something that wasn't fuel/vapor rated....that's when they collapse. Saying , if you have to replace it 3rd party, replace it with emission hose, or fuel vapor rated hose.
Sorry, but I didn't keep any Escape or Tribute catalogs. I just kept things with the F series and a few Mustang items. I only have so much room for such things. I gave away a load of GM parts catalogs for the A/G bodies and F body as well as the C/K trucks. I'm not into GM, but wouldn't throw away a good book like that. LOL.
I went out and tried to find it in the aftermarket, and it seems to be a dealer only hose. Looking at the picture, I couldn't tell if it was 3/4 or 5/8 hose that was used, but Dayco and Gates make a straight hose with 90 curve on the end that is oil/gas resistant. If you could show the whole hose, I'm sure I could reference a number to help you get it done. But, as I said, those emission hoses are available, but not always by application.
Sorry if I seem scatterbrained. No time for projects and I have a lifetime of them. Trying to get sisters car in good shape before I leave cz I'm it's way hope, they don't take care of cars.
Found out this hose is the fuel vapor management hose... ak do you have a part # for it and or a cheaper hose? I can only find hoses for not my escape and they are all $70+.
Anyway replaced one vacuum hose and the pcv elbow. Misfire SEEMS to be gone but only went for a quick test drive, sluggishness on acceleration is there sometimes, not there other times. All other hoses besides the two aforementioned hoses are in good shape. Guess I will wait and see if a new CEL appears. Next time I'm in town I'll try to replace the garden hose with heater hose of the same Inside diameter.
Well crap! You already new it was fuel vapor lol. But yea, that's what the deal is, -has to be replaced with fuel vapor is all. As long as it's not pre-bent, you can use 3rd party hose.
It's too hot here to do anymore, 107* heat index. My daughters are putting up hay this afternoon anyway...crazy right. This morning we worked on the 98 exhaust leak at the passenger side rear header at the head. To my surprise, it wasn't what I thought, but makes more sense since there is still bushing material present at the trans mount. Not much, but a little. This mount has 60,000 miles on it, -
Still good, but needs to be changed. Going to attempt to fix the exhaust for now, it's a nothing to loose situation and it will keep the truck usable when needed. Could just throw in the towel at any time...not there yet, more of a hindering mind melt on occasion lol. All that rust!
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Anyway, no stress on the headers, still in perfect alignment. Put a lot of time into the install 10 years back, built the Y myself. The focus was keeping the Y stress free so the dampening worked. Not much dampening here and it's centered at the cross-over pipe.
Now this stuff has gotten old. 9/I0 Michigan Winters later, this is where it's at. Install is holding true, the primary's are rusting through in front of the header flange weld. #4 primary is the first to go, -
After the pic, I pulled two header bolts, front and rear, they backed right out. Satisfied there's no pull down stress going on.
Attempting to weld this one in place. Didn't get to that yet, it'll be a half *** fix. Nothing to loose, the system needs replacing. Prepping that up, -replaced a header stud up front with a factory stainless stud. Factory studs thread into the heads further, plus they are nutted. This will make for a good ground, more so at the flange. I'm going to have to dig into the flange weld with the mig torch first thing. Let gravity take the puddle to the break. From there, dial the amps down, sort of build and drag the puddle across.
Probably isn't going to work, not much metal left at the primary. Then there's the contamination inside the pipe that will come to the top. Plus I'm using 23 wire, 25/75 arg mix when I should be using 10/90. Might be better to foil tape and band clamp...can't believe that one came to mind. Too much going on I expect, - temp fix in the works.They want to use the truck so...weld her up lol.
Last edited by Jbrew; Jun 30, 2018 at 10:05 PM.
Reason: deleted welding detail, no need for it
Being vacuum, it has to be a tight seal, so yeah, it probably should have some kind of connector. You could use a short piece of copper pipe - 3/4" maybe - or an inline sweat coupler if you need it to be a bit bigger, then clamp down over it. I've had to get creative like that over the years. I have to think, though, it was a single piece at one point, and wonder if the PO simply cut that hose, and stuck the garden hose into the cut end hoping it would seal up.
That garden hose catastrophe is probably causing a vacuum leak, so until it's fixed, you'll likely still have issues.
P.S. When I first looked at your pics, I didn't realize it was the Escape. I was trying to figure out what kind of bulkhead connector would've been going through the fender-well!
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Ah yeah didn't think of that. Will probably add a coupler to it.
And sorry lol I think my very first post said escape and then I stopped adding it lol
Originally Posted by Jbrew
Dealer item I expect. Not sure what vehicle it is, but if it was replaced with something that wasn't fuel/vapor rated....that's when they collapse. Saying , if you have to replace it 3rd party, replace it with emission hose, or fuel vapor rated hose.
Yeah the fuel vapor hose I can only find from the dealer it's $70+. The "garden hose" the dealership parts guy said was some sort of heater bypass actuator ??? If I heard right.
Originally Posted by akdoggie
Sorry, but I didn't keep any Escape or Tribute catalogs. I just kept things with the F series and a few Mustang items. I only have so much room for such things. I gave away a load of GM parts catalogs for the A/G bodies and F body as well as the C/K trucks. I'm not into GM, but wouldn't throw away a good book like that. LOL.
I went out and tried to find it in the aftermarket, and it seems to be a dealer only hose. Looking at the picture, I couldn't tell if it was 3/4 or 5/8 hose that was used, but Dayco and Gates make a straight hose with 90 curve on the end that is oil/gas resistant. If you could show the whole hose, I'm sure I could reference a number to help you get it done. But, as I said, those emission hoses are available, but not always by application.
No worries man, wasn't sure what you had on hand for escapes. My earlier post was misleading cz my pic didn't upload. The pic with this post is the fuel vapor management hose. It's what the dealer wanted $70 for. I can't find a part # to see if I can purchase a 3rd party hose.
The garden hose pic at the back of the engine the parts guy said it was a heater bypass actuator hose? Or something to that extent. I assume I just need a vac hose and a coupler to join the other hose down there.
Anyway I'm back home so her car is running for now. Next time I'm down I'm going to replace he garden hose line. And potentially the fuel vapor line if I can find it for cheap.
