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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:26 AM
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White.....isn't it only the 15 and 20 amp breakers that are suppose to be AFCI. I was just reading about that in Utah. How many do you have to replace?
Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:59 AM
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Yes, and I'm not replacing any of them. They can pound sand before I do.

I mean.... the house I am buying had no mention of it. Why? Because it's ludicrous to do it.
Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:07 AM
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Looks like some of this code has since been removed because of a lack of evidence that they are safer...

https://www.utah.gov/pmn/files/151479.pdf


Other reasons given by well respected members of several other technical
committees included the fact that many common and acceptable wiring techniques in
existing homes could create problems and would be incompatible with an AFCI
receptacle or AFCI breakers. For example many existing panelboards cannot
accommodate an AFCI breaker. This means if a homeowner needed to replace a single
broken receptacle in the home and the AFCI receptacle are still not available, they
would then have to replace the entire panelboard and all the associated breakers within
the dwelling. Another problem would arise with existing homes that were wired using
multiwire branch circuits throughout which cannot be feed by a typical AFCI Breaker. A
huge expense to meet a requirement that was not based on any significant technical
substation regarding the number of fires or injuries would be diverted. Until these
devices and similar technology which are underdevelopment are available, listed by a
nationally recognized testing agency and proven to perform in accordance with the
claims made by manufactures, we urge the removal of this requirement from the 2014
National Electrical Code.

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by white89gt
Looks like some of this code has since been removed because of a lack of evidence that they are safer...

https://www.utah.gov/pmn/files/151479.pdf
I think I would present this evidence to the inspector or the prospective buyers just to show where you are coming from.
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Speaking of where you are coming from, its a beautiful morning here today.
Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:44 AM
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Speaking of where you are coming from, its a beautiful morning here today.
Beautiful!
Yesterday was a perfect day to cut some hay
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by fordguy2100
Beautiful!
Yesterday was a perfect day to cut some hay
You definitely had the perfect day my friend!
Old Jun 28, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Beautiful pics!
Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:02 PM
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Damn JP.....it looks like Alaska isn't the only beautiful place. lol . Nice pictures'
Old Jun 28, 2017 | 01:10 PM
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"IF" this house I am trying to buy works out (due to the issues with my buyers) then I'll be having some really sweet pics too. I am right next to the mouth of Settlement Canyon.

EDIT: Actually... Middle Canyon is even closer by two miles. Lots and lots of nice areas within walking distance for me. Might be time to finally buy an ATV.

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