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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by COStruck
Maybe Takata shouldn't make airbags.

Am I the first one to say it?
They don't, they gone.

Now they owned by Chinese company.
Same plants making safety systems for a different overlord.

Hey @djfllmn Those airbags have Joyson labels on them?

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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ultimatenoobie
They don't, they gone.

Now they owned by Chinese company.
Same plants making safety systems for a different overlord.
I hadn't heard that. Looked it up - 4 yrs ago?!? How'd I never hear that? All I ever hear about, even to this day, is Takata.

Sounds like a trivial change just to hide the fact that they still can't make an airbag to save their lives.

Glad they're mandatory and I have to have a whole pile of them if I want a non-antique to drive.
Old Mar 21, 2023 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ultimatenoobie
They don't, they gone.

Now they owned by Chinese company.
Same plants making safety systems for a different overlord.

Hey @djfllmn Those airbags have Joyson labels on them?
no they do not. ZF actually
Old Mar 21, 2023 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by COStruck
Sounds like a trivial change just to hide the fact that they still can't make an airbag to save *OUR* lives.
Fixed that.

That's the problem with a lot of safety-related products. They set there quietly un-used and there's no way to guarantee that it's going to work when needed other than AQL QC tests conducted from the manufacturing line.

Old Mar 21, 2023 | 04:30 PM
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My Toyota had Takata's in it, and the dealer put Autoliv's in it under recall.
Old Mar 21, 2023 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OhioLariat
Fixed that.

That's the problem with a lot of safety-related products. They set there quietly un-used and there's no way to guarantee that it's going to work when needed other than AQL QC tests conducted from the manufacturing line.
Yeah. The unintended consequences of trying to save people from themselves.
Old Mar 21, 2023 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by COStruck
Yeah. The unintended consequences of trying to save people from themselves.
I don't know if I agree with that as it relates to air bags (or impact-rated bumpers, crumple zones, etc.) because others' actions can result in my being put in a predicament. On the other hand, I think they should take a lot of the safety labels off of things ("don't place ladder on icy surface," for instance) and let Darwin's laws have at it.






Old Mar 21, 2023 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OhioLariat
I don't know if I agree with that as it relates to air bags (or impact-rated bumpers, crumple zones, etc.) because others' actions can result in my being put in a predicament. On the other hand, I think they should take a lot of the safety labels off of things ("don't place ladder on icy surface," for instance) and let Darwin's laws have at it.
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OhioLariat
I don't know if I agree with that as it relates to air bags (or impact-rated bumpers, crumple zones, etc.) because others' actions can result in my being put in a predicament. On the other hand, I think they should take a lot of the safety labels off of things ("don't place ladder on icy surface," for instance) and let Darwin's laws have at it.
Of course. The simple solution to that is to offer an optional airbag. Anyone who wants one can pay for one; anyone who doesn't can save some money (and maybe not get a face full of shrapnel one day).
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So overhead console is in...a little frustrated with the front screw, as the donor headliner had a bulge in the center...half afraid to put it in and watch the headliner balsa board crack, since I just cut the holes out of my stock one for it.


Gotta get to the junkyard or find those A pillar plugs...



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