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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by COStruck
Seems like waaaaaay too much work.
Looks more difficult than it is. The SAS replaces any type of store bought lift kit, it can actually be a little cheaper. Depends upon the parts deals you can find. With this type of suspension mod you can collect the parts yourself and put the height anywhere you want.

A spring shop can arch/ re arch or build your springs to suit. You can save a little cash doing your own welding as well....spring hangers.

Get rid of those T-bars all together.

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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Looks more difficult than it is. The SAS replaces any type of store bought lift kit, it can actually be a little cheaper. Depends upon the parts deals you can find. With this type of suspension mod you can collect the parts yourself and put the height anywhere you want.

A spring shop can arch/ re arch or build your springs to suit. You can save a little cash doing your own welding as well....spring hangers.

Get rid of those T-bars all together.
Yep, I get all that, but I don't weld and I'm neither buying a welder nor paying someone else to do it all for me (I can only imagine what the bill would be for something like this). I'll just buy a vehicle with a solid front axle before I go there.
Old Mar 19, 2023 | 08:28 PM
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All the talk about heavy springs and (over in the link Wolvee posted) people are carrying heavier loads and stuff leads me to a question, How much load can the 8.8 take anyway?
Old Mar 19, 2023 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by COStruck
Yep, I get all that, but I don't weld and I'm neither buying a welder nor paying someone else to do it all for me (I can only imagine what the bill would be for something like this). I'll just buy a vehicle with a solid front axle before I go there.
Not a mod you want to attempt with that kind of thinking... That would cost yuh..I agree. Mixed you up with Fordguy.

If you're only looking to recover the 1/2" you lost from the winch, that is very simple. No , you won't damage anything as they can/should be adjusted to compensate. Is that all you really want to know...how ?

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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
If you're only looking to recover the 1/2" you lost from the winch, that is very simple. No , you won't damage anything as they can/should be adjusted to compensate. Is that all you really want to know...how ?
Yes, just wondering if it should just be adjusted out on stock bars or if they ought to be upgraded to stiffer bars. I need new bars anyway... only want to replace them once. I know the stock bars can be adjusted to correct the height, and I know how, so I guess the real question is which one would produce the better ride?
Old Mar 20, 2023 | 08:24 AM
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1) If the stock bars are toast, new ones will likely bring back that 1/2" anyway.
2) 7700 bars will result in a harsher ride.

Old Mar 20, 2023 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by OhioLariat
1) If the stock bars are toast, new ones will likely bring back that 1/2" anyway.
2) 7700 bars will result in a harsher ride.
1. Maybe some, but not all of it. ~200lbs. extra on the nose is going to compress the front with any bars. Keep in mind i haven't actually added the weight yet.
2. I would expect so, but how much weight needs to be added to the front axle to balance it back? By GVWR, the 7700 bars are 350lbs higher rated than my stock SCrew bars, and I'm planning to add about 200lbs. of permanent weight.

I guess the driver behind this question is the fact that coil spring platforms increase their spring rates every 200lbs or so to offset the additional weight, and since that's not really an option, at least as far as I could find from the limited info on stock tb specs, which alternative is better?

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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 12:27 PM
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this is entirely too much fun. the mavericks have an airbag recall and before we can throw the old ones out, we have to blow them up. in fact you can see the whole reason for the recall, the one didn't unroll completely

Old Mar 21, 2023 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by djfllmn
this is entirely too much fun. the mavericks have an airbag recall and before we can throw the old ones out, we have to blow them up. in fact you can see the whole reason for the recall, the one didn't unroll completely
So, Takata has gone completely the other way.
Instead of too powerful and shrapnel, now they just don't blow up all the way.

Or another fix:





Old Mar 21, 2023 | 01:20 PM
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Maybe Takata shouldn't make airbags.

Am I the first one to say it?



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