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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 02_Black_On_White
Just for ****s and gigs will a factory ford 90mm throttle body bolt onto a non lighting motor? Or are they completely different...?
If you tried it you would need the correct maf and tune to go with it.
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jprevat
If you tried it you would need the correct maf and tune to go with it.
If you went with a bigger TB, injectors, and MAF, with proper tune would there be many gains or would they still be slim?
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 04:51 PM
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Nope. No Gains. Also Ford never offered a cable driven 90mm tb.
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 09:41 PM
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Right, nothing to gain there. All you can really do is straighten out the intake. Make it a direct 3". The good composite after market intake tubes have that slick and shiny inner coating. Plus they're not close to being as turbulent as the factory intake. But that's as far as you can without serious modification.

Moding it up enough, to where you could capitalize with the stuff mentioned a few posts up would only be needed if supercharged or head upgrades...headers, something that improved flow dramatically in order to warrant larger injectors MAF...etc.
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Right, nothing to gain there. All you can really do is straighten out the intake. Make it a direct 3". The good composite after market intake tubes have that slick and shiny inner coating. Plus they're not close to being as turbulent as the factory intake. But that's as far as you can without serious modification.

Moding it up enough, to where you could capitalize with the stuff mentioned a few posts up would only be needed if supercharged or head upgrades...headers, something that improved flow dramatically in order to warrant larger injectors MAF...etc.
So if I were to do an NA build (which I'm not, this is just for ****s and giggles) with high compression, ported heads, a mild street or race cam, headers with full true dual exhaust, injectors, big TB, and proper tune how much power do you think it would make? Maybe 350ish?
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4
So if I were to do an NA build (which I'm not, this is just for ****s and giggles) with high compression, ported heads, a mild street or race cam, headers with full true dual exhaust, injectors, big TB, and proper tune how much power do you think it would make? Maybe 350ish?
There's too many variables to account for. If it were that easy we wouldn't need dynos.

To answer that, your be better off keeping your engine stock and throwing a lightning swap on it.
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 10:09 PM
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There's too many variables to account for. If it were that easy we wouldn't need dynos.

To answer that, your be better off keeping your engine stock and throwing a lightning swap on it.
I'll be building a 5.4, fully forged lower, probably stock ported heads. Not sure what cams yet, and either a lightning blower or a Whipple if I can find a used kit that's still in good shape. That's all the major stuff I'm planning. With 175k just throwing on a blower makes me nervous
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFX4Project
There's too many variables to account for. If it were that easy we wouldn't need dynos.

To answer that, your be better off keeping your engine stock and throwing a lightning swap on it.
What about throwing a lightning swap onto a 97/98 block with flat top Pistons? Or is the boost and higher compression not a good combo?
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Right, nothing to gain there. All you can really do is straighten out the intake. Make it a direct 3". The good composite after market intake tubes have that slick and shiny inner coating. Plus they're not close to being as turbulent as the factory intake. But that's as far as you can without serious modification.

Moding it up enough, to where you could capitalize with the stuff mentioned a few posts up would only be needed if supercharged or head upgrades...headers, something that improved flow dramatically in order to warrant larger injectors MAF...etc.
Hey @jbrew I got some questions for you. PM me if you get this.
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Right, nothing to gain there. All you can really do is straighten out the intake. Make it a direct 3". The good composite after market intake tubes have that slick and shiny inner coating. Plus they're not close to being as turbulent as the factory intake. But that's as far as you can without serious modification.

Moding it up enough, to where you could capitalize with the stuff mentioned a few posts up would only be needed if supercharged or head upgrades...headers, something that improved flow dramatically in order to warrant larger injectors MAF...etc.
Would the composite intake be better then the 1999 one? I have both and can use the best one.
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