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Old Mar 22, 2024 | 03:37 PM
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I haven't yet cut one open yet, Brew.
Old Mar 22, 2024 | 04:46 PM
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I need a guy like Mike Rowe in there. Someone in touch with trade careers, and what they mean to the welfare of the US.
Trump was a whip-cracking gold digger...

> Let's call a spade a spade and admit he's doing better than Past-President Pu**y-grabber, too. (oHIo)

Crocodile Dundee?!? He was president? He cuda had the votes. I always liked Nobody. I wrote him in. But he refused to run, and when he got so many votes, said he'd refuse to serve. Wonder is that governor from Yellowstone would go for it. He won and refused to serve, once he blocked a few things and set the clock back. I liked Bama and Mama ok, personally, beer 'n bees, but he wrote a slew of thing to take over with 11 "governorships" for marshall law if we went that far. Spose Rowe would go for it? It IS a job for a dirty guy. Too bad Jimmy is so old, but that seems to be only a small deterrent. No, not Dean, the wheel guy that builds houses and grows shady stuff underground. He gave those guys who spent too much time on the tennis courts heck. Knew how to blow things up and how to avoid it. And he prayed. We need a guy who is in touch w the Man behind the green curtain. Really greases the skids. Ok - Truck On!!!


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Old Mar 22, 2024 | 07:33 PM
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Brew.... I want to personally thank you for asking me to cut open an FL820S. I am stunned!! Thorough disappointment. After I cracked it open, these look to be Chinese. I see nowhere on the box or filter that say Made in the USA. The glue holding the media into the metal caps is everywhere. Looks like someone painted it on with their finger, to be brutally honest. I think I'll be taking the other 5 that I bought back to the store. The WIX is 100 times the filter this is. The ONLY thing about the Motorcraft that was better was the silicone anti-drainback valve. EDIT: The Auto Extra filter is identical to the Microgard that O'Reilly sells - made by WIX.

Just know that the shiddy looking one is Motorcraft. Wow... thanks again, Brew.



What if this glue made it into the motor?












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What if this glue made it into the motor?
How? Failed element? Or against flow through the anti-backflow valve? The former, I think you mean. Glue fails. Element then can be displaced.
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How? Failed element? Or against flow through the anti-backflow valve? The former, I think you mean. Glue fails. Element then can be displaced.
These black pieces are the glue that is smeared all over... it came off very easily.


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These black pieces are the glue that is smeared all over... it came off very easily.

I mean, they have to fund a way past the filter media. I can think of only two oaths, and the antibackflow valve seems less likely. The filter media, unglued, collapses, so the glue gets under it?
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Fund a way?

I don't care who, what, where, when.... I don't want that floating around in my oil, period. If for some reason the the bypass valve gets opened, that's got a chance going in my motor. No thanks. I've already seen how careless it's assembled. I won't be counting on their bypass valve to hold up.

You're seriously OK with buying filters like this?
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I don't care who, what, where, when....
You're seriously OK with buying filters like this?
Noone said that. Understanding how failures, act, is important to knowing their severely, an under what circumstances. Sometimes it leads to avoidance, or at least, mitigation when it happens. And I'd be happy to contribute an few bucks towards your filter testing. I'll throw in some bacon jelly.
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Do you have anything in particular you'd like opened?
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Originally Posted by white89gt
Do you have anything in particular you'd like opened?
Not me. I tend to buy a long mileage filter that goes with some oil I like, which tends to be a full synthetic, unless I am doing a low mileage oil meant to clean out an engine for whatever reason. I do few miles per year, anymore, and my mild climate gives no reason to do a seasonal change. I am not yet having luck finding the filter test I saw. One filter only had a superior antibackflow valve design. But money is money and I have to support your unbiased efforts at testing, so you continue such.

The test, I recall, also had pressure reduction numbers. Wiz, Mobil1, rarely a K'nR, no more PHrams. One Is often $2 off when I buy a jug of oil. I miss my PH8A's, but they are like AOL is or was, all on paper, PHarmed out, and the lowest bidder changing every few years. I miss but hardly see my NAPA, no longer get a jobber discount there, and even very rarely use my commercial O'Reilley's discount, as most jobs now are strictly for me, and I tend not to fudge to get that small savings.

There exists a can opener that cuts under the seam, so that you can "close" a veggie can with the removed lid. Maybe would work on these... Cans. Mebe cheaper.



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