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Old Jan 13, 2017 | 03:28 PM
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If it's weak, it won't last anytime at all. It might go the first time or last forever. Without knowing the rest of the motor condition, there is really no guess that will be accurate. Sorry but I doubt anyone can accurately guess a time.

I guess my question is, why not leave it stock and build the new motor with the correct compression ratio for the blower and add the heavier rods to bulletproof your block? That really wouldn't add a ton of money, but it would help keep things balanced correctly and not over done with n/a pistons and not ones for the blower use. Just wondering.
Old Jan 13, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by akdoggie
If it's weak, it won't last anytime at all. It might go the first time or last forever. Without knowing the rest of the motor condition, there is really no guess that will be accurate. Sorry but I doubt anyone can accurately guess a time.

I guess my question is, why not leave it stock and build the new motor with the correct compression ratio for the blower and add the heavier rods to bulletproof your block? That really wouldn't add a ton of money, but it would help keep things balanced correctly and not over done with n/a pistons and not ones for the blower use. Just wondering.
It's 3 grand for the machine work and assembly of a short block. Rods are $700, pistons are $700 as well and I want to go all out with a really nice short block when I finally decide to. Also, the stock N/A compression is the compression that I will be using regardless. 9.0:1 is safe on pretty much all setups. All in the tuning. I could have a short block built today if I wanted to, but trying to stretch out my purchases and not spend my college tuition on my truck's drivetrain in 1 year lol. It gets expensive quick
Old Jan 13, 2017 | 03:47 PM
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You are right about the 9.0 comp. What I was really meaning what the pistons themselves. Ours are not the same by any means. The Lightning uses Steel pistons, where as ours are cast or forged (don't remember which in this motor). Our pistons are less than 20 each from SP, and the Lightnings are 80 something each. That's what I was meaning over comp. Also, the PI pistons are deeper than the non-PI, by about .060.

What are you going to use for a crank? Just wondering with all the rotating stuff you were describing to buy, what you were doing in that part of the assembly.
Old Jan 13, 2017 | 03:52 PM
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This listing shows the lightning with 8.4 comp. Why wouldn't you go that route instead of 9.0?
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Old Jan 13, 2017 | 04:08 PM
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Huh, sounds like your running one of those K&N filters. They screw everything up...even tailgates and trailers.



I had to mention that one first..... before AK figured it out.

Old Jan 13, 2017 | 04:23 PM
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I've had for a couple years a new white faced full gauge panel and a stainless steel insert that I think I'm thinking about putting it into my spare speedometer setup and into lil Red. I'm not sure on the Stainless panel yet, but the white faces will be nice. I've got LED's to install anyways, so it would be easy to just set the speedometer correct and reinstall it as a complete set up. That way it would be a quick cluster swap, and not having the down time for the speedo/odometer gears to be installed and reset with LED's etc. I still have the clock spring from the Navigator to install, so I guess this would be the ideal time to do it. The cluster is out, everything is open to get to, why not? That way everything gets done at one time, and I don't have to go back into the dash again for a while.

What is left to do this spring, SO FAR. All parts sitting on the floor waiting for warm weather. lol

Slider window replace with new trim surround.
Replace both front wheel bearing with 14mm studded hubs.
Replace front brakes with the Expy set up.
Replace rear shocks
Replace exhaust with the Gibson set up.
Replace rear brake pads
Repair small crack in bed sides.
Replace front seats with the Expy's.
Replace Sony head with Android DD
Install 30 inch 2row LED curved lightbar for behind the grille, and 2 mini's as back up lights.
Add interior dash and underseat RGB LED's
Install left side outside door handle with key pad.

I have the Expy motor rolled over and checked. The 3 and 7 rods were into the copper, but the crank isn't damaged or scored, so after getting out the mic, .001 or 002 will clean them up fine. I'm going to get the 001. and check the measurements first. If it's too much, I'll go ahead and order the 2 002's. They are special order for us up here. Up here we only have std, 001 and 010 in stock for the mod motors. It will be ready for lil Red if I decide I want to go that route in the spring. It would be nice to have the PI heads and late design intake system. Note. I am rolling a full set of bearing, both rod and mains into this engine. I'm just getting things all scoped out and then I'll know exactly what I want to do and how. Damn, this motor is so clean inside. Trying to figure why those 2 cylinders decided to wear so much and not the others. I'm going to replace the front pump (oil) while I'm in there. Something caused the wear.
Is she going to better than new you think ? Your going to town on Red. I get burned out too quick workin on mine and planning lately. I bet you get all that accomplished though!...After seeing what you've done up to this point..shoot you haven't had it that long lol. Well, takes quite a bit know how to do what you've done THAT CHEAPLY! You know right were to look every time. Congrats buddy! It's already came along way.
Old Jan 13, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Huh, sounds like your running one of those K&N filters. They screw everything up...even tailgates and trailers.



I had to mention that one first..... before AK figured it out.

LMAO.... that's funny.


I got everything all set up for my Buddy last night to open his shop.... got his fed and state tax id's, name registration, and salt lake issued him a permit to open the doors! It's cool to see it all come together. Almost finished with his webpage as well...
Old Jan 14, 2017 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by akdoggie
You are right about the 9.0 comp. What I was really meaning what the pistons themselves. Ours are not the same by any means. The Lightning uses Steel pistons, where as ours are cast or forged (don't remember which in this motor). Our pistons are less than 20 each from SP, and the Lightnings are 80 something each. That's what I was meaning over comp. Also, the PI pistons are deeper than the non-PI, by about .060.

What are you going to use for a crank? Just wondering with all the rotating stuff you were describing to buy, what you were doing in that part of the assembly.
Going: Factory forged crank, Manley rods, Manley Pistons with 11cc dish for 9.0:1 CR, Manley or total seal rings, factory Ford head Gaskets, ARP head studs, ARP rod bolts, ARP main bolts, new OEM timing set, Ford Racing billet oil pump, head refresh, and then I'll run an 8 pound pulley on the blower setup I have to put me right around 16 pounds of boost and 500/550ish at the flywheel


Originally Posted by akdoggie
This listing shows the lightning with 8.4 comp. Why wouldn't you go that route instead of 9.0?
The higher compression ratio allows for better off-boost throttle response and slightly more power overall.

Originally Posted by Jbrew
Huh, sounds like your running one of those K&N filters. They screw everything up...even tailgates and trailers.



I had to mention that one first..... before AK figured it out.

Lol yes I am running one of those. PO put it on and I was gonna switch back to factory but I bought the blower setup and all the lightning guys run those filters. They're proven to make a big difference, sometimes even increasing boost by 2 pounds.
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Check this out.... this happened here in a recent snow storm. Never seen a snowplow get thrown around like that... and the guy is currently still alive.

NOTE: Fast forward to 50 seconds in

http://gephardtdaily.com/breaking/dr...h-fork-canyon/

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Old Jan 14, 2017 | 01:45 PM
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Saw that yesterday. It is amazing that the guy in the plow even was alive, let alone just serious. 300 feet? That is a wild ride, I'm sure.



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