Just ask 4x4dave. He laid down real good power with no internal motor work. Just the lightning swap with supporting mods, some bolt ons, and a larger lower blower pulley

 

It would be nice if I could do it on less boost. Since I will be NA for a while and I have to go into the motor anyways the rebuilt heads and cams will probably be worth it. The short block is gonna be a little overkill but I'd rather have it like that than the other way around

 

I'm sorry you've heard terrible things about the 6.7s. But you gotta dig for the good stories, personally I've never seen anyone that owned or drove one dog it. I've also never seen a repair bill bigger than 1000 bucks. And that was replacing the DEF filter at 160k. The only real issue I've come across with the 6.7 is with the early years, they used ceramic bearings in the turbos and that was what didn't last, 2015+ design fixes that. I've also never seen a turbo failure in the 60+ trucks at the company I worked for, most of those trucks were creeping up on 200k miles. I've spent a lot of time researching the new superdutys and I can tell you that is hands down the best diesel on the market, even better than the cummins.

Another point, all of them are going to break eventually. You're going to need deep pockets to fix all of them, even deleted and proofed they still break. So IMO I would take the extra power, better trans and far higher level of refinement and drivability of the 6.7. Not to mention the sound difference at idle. The 6.0 is loud where you can barely even hear the 6.7.

Sorry to sound like a ford rep, but most of the people that say bad things about the newer trucks either can't afford them, or repeat something they read on the internet. Watch some YouTube vids from actual owners, hardly any will say bad things about it.

 

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Btw, -I still have an appointment to see this one Thursday, didn't cancel yet -

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...odelCode1=F250

 

If I ever got rid of my 10th gen, that's the exact setup I would look for except it would have to be white lol. The center console on those is amazing. It also has full powerscope mirrors and the upfitter switches. Check the door tag, if it has the 3.55 ratio it will be a rocket.

 

When the motor was healthy and not burning a *** ton of oil, it made 320/360 on 93. Made close to 340/380 on e85 and lots of timing.

Ive owned 2 6.0's. the first one had 271k miles when i got it. Bulletproofed it and drove it to 320k. Sold it to a friend as a work truck. It now has 450k. Only thing he has had to do was injectors and a hpop at 400k. The second on I had was a 07. Got it with blown head gaskets. Bulletproofed it with with new injectors. It had 150k. Not sure what is on it urrently but the last time I saw it, it had over 300k with no more issues. 6.0 is the best bang for the buck. Especially once bullet proofed. High mileage 6.7 are still expensive. And they are a maintence nightmare.

 

Thanks Crazy! Yes, this is what I've been reading as well. Except I'm hearing when the 6.7 is on borrowed time. It's going to go to about 150K and going to be expensive as hell to fix. X2 compared to the rest.

But, the 2008 and up interiors, very cool in black. But they have the 6.4's. How hard are the 6.4's to bulletproof ? Does it last like the 6.0. I'll definitely provide good maintenance to the next truck. I want to make the right choice where that will be good enough and payoff.

If any you guys have the time, I appreciate you taking a look at this, - is this guy on the level ? -

 

Take a look at that video if you don't mind. That truck I'm looking at is a Michigan truck so it will most likley be a no go as far as rust. My next truck is going start out clean and stay that way lol. But watch that vid for a quick powerstroke evaluation. The dude talks me into the 6.0 every time.

Carcrazy, did you bulletproof those 6.0's yourself ? I haven't worked on diesels in a long time, doesn't look difficult. Any special tools ? Yea the 6.4's are throw away engines, so it looks like it's going to be the 6.0.

 

Dammit I think he talked me into one lol. He makes some very good points. Also for under 20k bulletproofing included, you can't really beat it. I think you may be onto something here.