Engine Builders talk.
04-18-2017, 05:39 PM
#9292
Senior Member
It would be nice if I could do it on less boost. Since I will be NA for a while and I have to go into the motor anyways the rebuilt heads and cams will probably be worth it. The short block is gonna be a little overkill but I'd rather have it like that than the other way around
04-18-2017, 07:40 PM
#9293
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Jbrew
What I'm hearing about the 6.7 , They are good for 130, 150,000 miles, then plan on having deep pockets , like 10 to 15 grand to fix them. I can get a 15 6.7 at about half price compared to new, even lower. But mann, there's some horror stories out there. If you can find a 7.3 with low miles, southern truck, actually that's the only place where I'll shop for them, down south, but age is catching up to the 7threes. A lot of wire harness issues.
The 6.0, there's a lot of those for sale that are already bullet proofed under 20 grand. They will go 1/2 million miles without an issue IF you keep up with maintenance. I'm looking for that kind of reliability.
Started out with the 6.7..now it's looking like a 6.0 BP'ed. The transmissions behind the 6.0's are also top notch. With the 6.0's , sounds like you can scan gauge them to get an over all engine health summery. Looking into that, that may be hard to do test driving one lol.
The 7.3's are also loud lol. That might get old after awhile. I also like the interior in the newer models. These are just small things, but things I'm also thinking about long term. The 7.3's are old school tech, not a bad thing I guess. I keep my vehicles for along time, but swearing off rusted ones, that's for sure lol.
The 6.0, there's a lot of those for sale that are already bullet proofed under 20 grand. They will go 1/2 million miles without an issue IF you keep up with maintenance. I'm looking for that kind of reliability.
Started out with the 6.7..now it's looking like a 6.0 BP'ed. The transmissions behind the 6.0's are also top notch. With the 6.0's , sounds like you can scan gauge them to get an over all engine health summery. Looking into that, that may be hard to do test driving one lol.
The 7.3's are also loud lol. That might get old after awhile. I also like the interior in the newer models. These are just small things, but things I'm also thinking about long term. The 7.3's are old school tech, not a bad thing I guess. I keep my vehicles for along time, but swearing off rusted ones, that's for sure lol.
Another point, all of them are going to break eventually. You're going to need deep pockets to fix all of them, even deleted and proofed they still break. So IMO I would take the extra power, better trans and far higher level of refinement and drivability of the 6.7. Not to mention the sound difference at idle. The 6.0 is loud where you can barely even hear the 6.7.
Sorry to sound like a ford rep, but most of the people that say bad things about the newer trucks either can't afford them, or repeat something they read on the internet. Watch some YouTube vids from actual owners, hardly any will say bad things about it.
04-18-2017, 07:48 PM
#9294
Senior Member
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04-18-2017, 09:13 PM
#9295
Senior Member
Btw, -I still have an appointment to see this one Thursday, didn't cancel yet -
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...odelCode1=F250
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...odelCode1=F250
04-19-2017, 08:02 AM
#9296
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Jbrew
Btw, -I still have an appointment to see this one Thursday, didn't cancel yet -
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...odelCode1=F250
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...odelCode1=F250
04-19-2017, 09:09 AM
#9297
Hey guys, been looking at used diesels. Started with the 6.7 but man, that can turn out to be a huge mistake in the long run. If I'm understanding this correctly, the best Powerstroke investment would be a 6.0, then have bullet proofed. A 6.0 bulletproofed will go the distance, the 2005-2007 models. It's either that or a 6.2 gaser. The 6.2 gaser would be enough performance wise but a bullet proofed 6.0 diesel smashes the 6two in economy. I mean it's a huge difference and I want to use it for a daily driver. But yea, the 6.0 would need at least a stage two bulletproofing.
I just started looking into it, am I understanding this correctly ? The 6.0 really? Figured some of you guys might know a thing or two.
I just started looking into it, am I understanding this correctly ? The 6.0 really? Figured some of you guys might know a thing or two.
EGR,Oil Cooler and ARP studs is stage 2. Yea I really wanted a 6.7 but other than the 7.3's the rest of diesels are considered 150,000 mile engines and can't be bullet proofed to go 1/2 a million miles like the 6.0. Stage 3 includes new heads, older style metal air intakes vs plastic. What sucks is I really like 08's and up interior, not crazy about the 07's.
I haven't got around to researching 6.7 more, I looked at a 15 and it was a beautiful truck for around 28...I don't want that worry about the engine though.
I haven't got around to researching 6.7 more, I looked at a 15 and it was a beautiful truck for around 28...I don't want that worry about the engine though.
04-19-2017, 10:00 AM
#9298
Senior Member
When the motor was healthy and not burning a *** ton of oil, it made 320/360 on 93. Made close to 340/380 on e85 and lots of timing.
Ive owned 2 6.0's. the first one had 271k miles when i got it. Bulletproofed it and drove it to 320k. Sold it to a friend as a work truck. It now has 450k. Only thing he has had to do was injectors and a hpop at 400k. The second on I had was a 07. Got it with blown head gaskets. Bulletproofed it with with new injectors. It had 150k. Not sure what is on it urrently but the last time I saw it, it had over 300k with no more issues. 6.0 is the best bang for the buck. Especially once bullet proofed. High mileage 6.7 are still expensive. And they are a maintence nightmare.
Ive owned 2 6.0's. the first one had 271k miles when i got it. Bulletproofed it and drove it to 320k. Sold it to a friend as a work truck. It now has 450k. Only thing he has had to do was injectors and a hpop at 400k. The second on I had was a 07. Got it with blown head gaskets. Bulletproofed it with with new injectors. It had 150k. Not sure what is on it urrently but the last time I saw it, it had over 300k with no more issues. 6.0 is the best bang for the buck. Especially once bullet proofed. High mileage 6.7 are still expensive. And they are a maintence nightmare.
But, the 2008 and up interiors, very cool in black. But they have the 6.4's. How hard are the 6.4's to bulletproof ? Does it last like the 6.0. I'll definitely provide good maintenance to the next truck. I want to make the right choice where that will be good enough and payoff.
If any you guys have the time, I appreciate you taking a look at this, - is this guy on the level ? -
04-19-2017, 11:08 AM
#9299
Senior Member
If I ever got rid of my 10th gen, that's the exact setup I would look for except it would have to be white lol. The center console on those is amazing. It also has full powerscope mirrors and the upfitter switches. Check the door tag, if it has the 3.55 ratio it will be a rocket.
Carcrazy, did you bulletproof those 6.0's yourself ? I haven't worked on diesels in a long time, doesn't look difficult. Any special tools ? Yea the 6.4's are throw away engines, so it looks like it's going to be the 6.0.
04-19-2017, 11:33 AM
#9300
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Jbrew
Take a look at that video if you don't mind. That truck I'm looking at is a Michigan truck so it will most likley be a no go as far as rust. My next truck is going start out clean and stay that way lol. But watch that vid for a quick powerstroke evaluation. The dude talks me into the 6.0 every time.
Carcrazy, did you bulletproof those 6.0's yourself ? I haven't worked on diesels in a long time, doesn't look difficult. Any special tools ? Yea the 6.4's are throw away engines, so it looks like it's going to be the 6.0.
Carcrazy, did you bulletproof those 6.0's yourself ? I haven't worked on diesels in a long time, doesn't look difficult. Any special tools ? Yea the 6.4's are throw away engines, so it looks like it's going to be the 6.0.