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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 01:05 PM
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Hey guys, been looking at used diesels. Started with the 6.7 but man, that can turn out to be a huge mistake in the long run. If I'm understanding this correctly, the best Powerstroke investment would be a 6.0, then have bullet proofed. A 6.0 bulletproofed will go the distance, the 2005-2007 models. It's either that or a 6.2 gaser. The 6.2 gaser would be enough performance wise but a bullet proofed 6.0 diesel smashes the 6two in economy. I mean it's a huge difference and I want to use it for a daily driver. But yea, the 6.0 would need at least a stage two bulletproofing.

I just started looking into it, am I understanding this correctly ? The 6.0 really? Figured some of you guys might know a thing or two.
Jbrew, the newer 6.7 is just about bulletproof from the factory. Ford really outdid themselves with that engine. With an egr and def delete those trucks will probably do 500k before a rebuild. I've seen personally 280k on a 2011 with all of the factory crap on it. The new ones are the best hands down.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 01:08 PM
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I used to get as good as 24mpg highway at 65 mph factory stock. Also, this truck weighed in close to 13k with tools and fuel.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 01:11 PM
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Don't discount the 7.3. I know lots of guys with close to 300k or more in them. Problem with those trucks seams to be the transmissions
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 01:15 PM
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Don't discount the 7.3. I know lots of guys with close to 300k or more in them. Problem with those trucks seams to be the transmissions
7.3 is great too. I agree the transmissions are crap, and compared to today's standards they are a bit down on power but still very capable. The hard part is finding one that hasn't been completely molested, or even in good shape.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 01:48 PM
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What I'm hearing about the 6.7 , They are good for 130, 150,000 miles, then plan on having deep pockets , like 10 to 15 grand to fix them. I can get a 15 6.7 at about half price compared to new, even lower. But mann, there's some horror stories out there. If you can find a 7.3 with low miles, southern truck, actually that's the only place where I'll shop for them, down south, but age is catching up to the 7threes. A lot of wire harness issues.

The 6.0, there's a lot of those for sale that are already bullet proofed under 20 grand. They will go 1/2 million miles without an issue IF you keep up with maintenance. I'm looking for that kind of reliability.

Started out with the 6.7..now it's looking like a 6.0 BP'ed. The transmissions behind the 6.0's are also top notch. With the 6.0's , sounds like you can scan gauge them to get an over all engine health summery. Looking into that, that may be hard to do test driving one lol.

The 7.3's are also loud lol. That might get old after awhile. I also like the interior in the newer models. These are just small things, but things I'm also thinking about long term. The 7.3's are old school tech, not a bad thing I guess. I keep my vehicles for along time, but swearing off rusted ones, that's for sure lol.

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 01:58 PM
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I've never heard that about the 6.7s. But as far as the 6.0s go, there are a lot of people that say the trucks are "bulletproofed". But that means different things to different people. To truly bulletproof a 6.0 you are looking to spend about 10k just in parts. Most people don't go that far with them and do the bare minimum or a little more, while every little bit helps with those engines, not going all out will eventually cost you money, and it's usually 5k just to pop the hood on one of those if something goes wrong. If you're set in the 6.0, do lots of research (I know you will) and make sure the job was done right by a reputable place.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DrillRig52
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I used to get as good as 24mpg highway at 65 mph factory stock. Also, this truck weighed in close to 13k with tools and fuel.
That's a sweet set up, love the toys on board.

Yea the economy of these trucks are great. I haven't looked at diesel fuel prices yet, I know it costs more, something I've been meaning to next time at the pump lol.

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DrillRig52
I've never heard that about the 6.7s. But as far as the 6.0s go, there are a lot of people that say the trucks are "bulletproofed". But that means different things to different people. To truly bulletproof a 6.0 you are looking to spend about 10k just in parts. Most people don't go that far with them and do the bare minimum or a little more, while every little bit helps with those engines, not going all out will eventually cost you money, and it's usually 5k just to pop the hood on one of those if something goes wrong. If you're set in the 6.0, do lots of research (I know you will) and make sure the job was done right by a reputable place.
Stage two is EGR and oil cooler I believe. (Not an EGR delete) Stage 3 is heads and studs from what I understand. Studs alone might be included or added to a stage two, not totally sure. It's 5K on average for bullet proofing. But you absolutely correct, "means different things to different people".

Yea the 6.7 is out, I definitely don't want to deal with that mess. Perhaps they fixed the newer engines, not sure. Still more to research. I'm not totally dead set on anything, yet. This is just the info I've found so far.

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DrillRig52
Jbrew, the newer 6.7 is just about bulletproof from the factory. Ford really outdid themselves with that engine. With an egr and def delete those trucks will probably do 500k before a rebuild. I've seen personally 280k on a 2011 with all of the factory crap on it. The new ones are the best hands down.
Yea, I'll look into that further, THANKS!
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DrillRig52
I've never heard that about the 6.7s. But as far as the 6.0s go, there are a lot of people that say the trucks are "bulletproofed". But that means different things to different people. To truly bulletproof a 6.0 you are looking to spend about 10k just in parts. Most people don't go that far with them and do the bare minimum or a little more, while every little bit helps with those engines, not going all out will eventually cost you money, and it's usually 5k just to pop the hood on one of those if something goes wrong. If you're set in the 6.0, do lots of research (I know you will) and make sure the job was done right by a reputable place.
EGR,Oil Cooler and ARP studs is stage 2. Yea I really wanted a 6.7 but other than the 7.3's the rest of diesels are considered 150,000 mile engines and can't be bullet proofed to go 1/2 a million miles like the 6.0. Stage 3 includes new heads, older style metal air intakes vs plastic. What sucks is I really like 08's and up interior, not crazy about the 07's.

I haven't got around to researching 6.7 more, I looked at a 15 and it was a beautiful truck for around 28...I don't want that worry about the engine though.
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