Topic Sponsor
1997 - 2003 Ford F150 General discussion on the Ford 1997 - 2003 F150 truck.

Engine Builders talk.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:15 PM
  #8021  
DrillRig52's Avatar
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 201
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

Originally Posted by Cmanjr
it's a truck with a V8, who gets worried about fuel mileage anyways
I would be willing to bet a 4mpg drop running 4x4 all the time. That's 100 miles less per tank of fuel. If it's a daily driver that would be asinine. Strictly off-road I could see it. It's actually the same reason I will never put mud terrains on my daily ever again. The grip is great and they look awesome but the noise drive me up the wall on long road trips.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:19 PM
  #8022  
2thousand5.4's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 10,354
Likes: 105
From: Virginia
Default

It would only lock while the truck is turning I would think
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:25 PM
  #8023  
jprevat's Avatar
Resident Forester
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 13,940
Likes: 1,531
From: South Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by DrillRig52
I'm almost positive it will keep the 4x4 engaged. If you look at how a Torsen diff works, it only lets a limited amount of slip before it turns to a full on locker unlike a clutch style LSD with clutch packs. Too bad Collin doesn't come around much anymore, he has a locked front and I'm sure he could explain this much better than I.
Yeh im not an expert on the torsen but collin ran a spartan locker or lincoln locked up front. Those are full lock all the time in a straight line, in the spartans case.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:26 PM
  #8024  
DrillRig52's Avatar
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 201
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

Originally Posted by jprevat
Yeh im not an expert on the torsen but collin ran a spartan locker up front. Those are full lock all the time in a straight line.
Ya I could be wrong but that would be my semi-educated guess lol. Where's Jbrew when you need him?
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:28 PM
  #8025  
jprevat's Avatar
Resident Forester
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 13,940
Likes: 1,531
From: South Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by DrillRig52
Ya I could be wrong but that would be my semi-educated guess lol. Where's Jbrew when you need him?
Lol I have a how to and drawback post by collin somewhere I need to dig up.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 09:04 PM
  #8026  
Cmanjr's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 14,978
Likes: 143
From: Northern Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by DrillRig52
I would be willing to bet a 4mpg drop running 4x4 all the time. That's 100 miles less per tank of fuel. If it's a daily driver that would be asinine. Strictly off-road I could see it. It's actually the same reason I will never put mud terrains on my daily ever again. The grip is great and they look awesome but the noise drive me up the wall on long road trips.
Originally Posted by jprevat
Yeh im not an expert on the torsen but collin ran a spartan locker or lincoln locked up front. Those are full lock all the time in a straight line, in the spartans case.
don't forget there's a transfer case... when you have your truck in 2wd it isn't going to receive power to the front differential, thus meaning that it won't be engaged.

is this the case or am I missing something??
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 09:09 PM
  #8027  
papa tiger's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 32,108
Likes: 240
Default

Constant 4x4 on hard surfaces is usually hard on the front drive shaft first then it sort of tears the crap out of the drive line. Some are designed with a mini differential in the transfer case to help with the torsion wrap up between the two axles but it is still hard on the front drive shaft and you get perty regular destruction of it joints.
Best not to worry about gas mileage and just get out of 4x4 if you don't have to have it.

Last edited by papa tiger; Feb 11, 2016 at 09:14 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 09:16 PM
  #8028  
Cmanjr's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 14,978
Likes: 143
From: Northern Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by papa tiger
Constant 4x4 on hard surfaces is usually hard on the front drive shaft first then it sort of tears the crap out of the drive line. Some are designed with a mini differential in the transfer case to help with the torsion wrap up between the two axles but it is still hard on the front drive shaft and you get perty regular destruction of it joints.
How is that any different than the rear driveshaft?

and I thought these trucks weren't full time 4x4? I thought they have a part time transfer case.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 10:19 PM
  #8029  
jprevat's Avatar
Resident Forester
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 13,940
Likes: 1,531
From: South Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Cmanjr

don't forget there's a transfer case... when you have your truck in 2wd it isn't going to receive power to the front differential, thus meaning that it won't be engaged.

is this the case or am I missing something??
Its not so much that it gets power but that it causes drag. When out of 4x4 the passenger side axle shaft is disengaged via sliding collar. This means that only the driver side is connected to the front ring and pinion.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2016 | 10:38 PM
  #8030  
DrillRig52's Avatar
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 201
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

Originally Posted by jprevat
Its not so much that it gets power but that it causes drag. When out of 4x4 the passenger side axle shaft is disengaged via sliding collar. This means that only the driver side is connected to the front ring and pinion.
This is what I was getting at! Just forgot how it actually worked. My thinking was that if its not completely open in the front you will technically not be able to disengage 4x4.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:16 AM.