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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 10:42 PM
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I think starting in 2011 the trans controller is in the ECU. Before it is in the 6R80. So you may be able to get a donor truck and use the engine, trans and transfer case. I do not know the details though. The 6R80 is a great transmission.
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DrillRig52
This is what I was getting at! Just forgot how it actually worked. My thinking was that if its not completely open in the front you will technically not be able to disengage 4x4.
You still have drag as the system is now but im not sure how much it would be with the torsen ls.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 01:15 AM
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Its not so much that it gets power but that it causes drag. When out of 4x4 the passenger side axle shaft is disengaged via sliding collar. This means that only the driver side is connected to the front ring and pinion.
yeah I'm quite familiar with those setups as my jeep is the same way -speaking of which, my front axle disco is disengaged and the vacuum lines are long gone, so I'll be looking into some type of rigging to make the damn thing stay locked so I actually have 4x4.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cmanjr

yeah I'm quite familiar with those setups as my jeep is the same way -speaking of which, my front axle disco is disengaged and the vacuum lines are long gone, so I'll be looking into some type of rigging to make the damn thing stay locked so I actually have 4x4.
I can almost promise you they make a cable lock for your jeep.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 07:34 AM
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I can almost promise you they make a cable lock for your jeep.
They make one for our trucks too. I almost got one when I was having my 4x4 issues
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4

They make one for our trucks too. I almost got one when I was having my 4x4 issues
I considered one too but it turned out to be my shift fork.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 07:44 AM
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I can almost promise you they make a cable lock for your jeep.
oh they do, I just haven't gotten any yet. I just want the damn thing locked all the time so I'll go the permalock route for that then get the driveshaft balanced if need be to prevent vibrations.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cmanjr

oh they do, I just haven't gotten any yet. I just want the damn thing locked all the time so I'll go the permalock route for that then get the driveshaft balanced if need be to prevent vibrations.
Yeh I would not do that. That transfer case isnt meant for that kind of use. Unless you are talking only about the axles separate from the tcase.

Im very tempted to start a diff traction aid thread so we stop cluttering this one.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 01:14 PM
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Yeh I would not do that. That transfer case isnt meant for that kind of use. Unless you are talking only about the axles separate from the tcase.

Im very tempted to start a diff traction aid thread so we stop cluttering this one.
I'm talking about the center axle disconnect in the front axle. it's the same as on 10th gens but it's vacuum actuated (don't know how the 10th gen one is set up)

having this permanently locked isn't going to hurt anything except maybe gas mileage. it basically makes it like a one piece axle like the Jeep Wrangler TJ and JK axles are. all it does is make both axle shafts in the front axle always turning, meaning the differential is always turning, as well as the driveshaft.

there isn't any power being put through the system until it's shifted into 4x so nothing is affected or harmed by the change. the transfer case won't be hurt or affected in any way by this as the output for the front axle is just freewheeling and the gears inside the transfer case besides 4 low are synchronized.

basically the tcase has nothing to do with what I was talking about lol. only the front axle.

and I think you should start a thread like that, it would be good to have around and be very useful and informative. would make a great thread to add to the stickies.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cmanjr
I'm talking about the center axle disconnect in the front axle. it's the same as on 10th gens but it's vacuum actuated (don't know how the 10th gen one is set up)

having this permanently locked isn't going to hurt anything except maybe gas mileage. it basically makes it like a one piece axle like the Jeep Wrangler TJ and JK axles are. all it does is make both axle shafts in the front axle always turning, meaning the differential is always turning, as well as the driveshaft.

there isn't any power being put through the system until it's shifted into 4x so nothing is affected or harmed by the change. the transfer case won't be hurt or affected in any way by this as the output for the front axle is just freewheeling and the gears inside the transfer case besides 4 low are synchronized.

basically the tcase has nothing to do with what I was talking about lol. only the front axle.

and I think you should start a thread like that, it would be good to have around and be very useful and informative. would make a great thread to add to the stickies.
10th gens are vacuum actuated as well. I replaced the whole vacuum system on mine
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