2011+ 55-60mph 5.0 Shuddering and EcoBoost Engine Miss/Loss of Power - Possible Fixes
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From: Fox Lake, IL
Axle wrap is completely different than having our truck's engines go into limp mode due to excessive condensation in the IC. Ford can't just try to sweep this under the rug. First person that gets killed because their truck dies in front of a semi....well Ford surely doesn't want to pay for that lawsuit.
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From: Bradford Ontario
Here is the 12-02-10 TSB info:
3.5L GTDI CALIBRATION UPDATE—VARIOUS TSB 12-2-10
ISSUES—BUILT ON OR BEFORE 2/7/2012
FORD:
2011-2012 F-150
ISSUE
NOTE
Some 2011-2012 F150 vehicles built on or before PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS
2/7/2012 and equipped with a 3.5L gasoline VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE
turbocharged direct injection (GTDI) engine may TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH
exhibit a malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) with ALLOWS THE VEHICLE’S COMPUTER TO LEARN
various diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) and THE TRANSMISSION’S UNIQUE PARAMETERS
driveability concerns. AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE
ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE
ACTION
COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY
condition. RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS
AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
PART NUMBER PART NAME
The calibration update contains improvement
actions and enhancements to address the following
BL3Z-5E212-E Converter Assy
conditions:
W520514-S440 Nuts
• Intermittent engine surge during moderate to light
loads at cruise.
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of
• Enhancements to misfire monitor detection. New Vehicle Limited
Warranty Coverage And
• Powertrain control module (PCM) DTC P0430 Emissions Warranty
and/or P0096. Coverage
NOTE
Warranty/ESP coverage
INSURE ALL HARD FAULT POWERTRAIN DTCS limits/policies/prior approvals
ARE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO PERFORMING THE are not altered by a TSB.
CALIBRATION UPDATE. Warranty/ESP coverage
limits are determined by the
1. If the vehicle exhibits DTC P0430 replace the identified causal part and
left bank catalytic converter. Refer to WSM verified using the OASIS
section 309-00. Proceed to Step 2. part coverage tool.
2. Reprogram the PCM to the latest calibration OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
using IDS release 77A.03A or higher. This new 120210A 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 0.4 Hr.
calibration is not included in the 2012.1A DVD. GTDI: Check DTCs, And
Calibration files may also be obtained at Reprogram The PCM (Do
www.motorcraft.com. Not Use With Any Other
Labor Operations)
NOTE:
The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do
the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper
vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by “do-it-yourselfers”. Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a
Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine
Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article.The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was
current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates.The most recent information is available
through Ford Motor Company’s on-line technical resources.
Copyright
ã 2012 Ford Motor Company Online Publication Date February 15, 2012 PAGE 1
TSB 12-2-10 (Continued)
120210B 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 1.0 Hr.
GTDI: Check DTCs,
Reprogram The PCM, And
Replace The Left Catalytic
Converter (Do Not Use
With Any Other Labor
Operations)
DEALER CODING
CONDITION
BASIC PART NO. CODE
RECALEM 04
PAGE 2
3.5L GTDI CALIBRATION UPDATE—VARIOUS TSB 12-2-10
ISSUES—BUILT ON OR BEFORE 2/7/2012
FORD:
2011-2012 F-150
ISSUE
NOTE
Some 2011-2012 F150 vehicles built on or before PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS
2/7/2012 and equipped with a 3.5L gasoline VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE
turbocharged direct injection (GTDI) engine may TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH
exhibit a malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) with ALLOWS THE VEHICLE’S COMPUTER TO LEARN
various diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) and THE TRANSMISSION’S UNIQUE PARAMETERS
driveability concerns. AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE
ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE
ACTION
COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY
condition. RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS
AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
PART NUMBER PART NAME
The calibration update contains improvement
actions and enhancements to address the following
BL3Z-5E212-E Converter Assy
conditions:
W520514-S440 Nuts
• Intermittent engine surge during moderate to light
loads at cruise.
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of
• Enhancements to misfire monitor detection. New Vehicle Limited
Warranty Coverage And
• Powertrain control module (PCM) DTC P0430 Emissions Warranty
and/or P0096. Coverage
NOTE
Warranty/ESP coverage
INSURE ALL HARD FAULT POWERTRAIN DTCS limits/policies/prior approvals
ARE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO PERFORMING THE are not altered by a TSB.
CALIBRATION UPDATE. Warranty/ESP coverage
limits are determined by the
1. If the vehicle exhibits DTC P0430 replace the identified causal part and
left bank catalytic converter. Refer to WSM verified using the OASIS
section 309-00. Proceed to Step 2. part coverage tool.
2. Reprogram the PCM to the latest calibration OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
using IDS release 77A.03A or higher. This new 120210A 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 0.4 Hr.
calibration is not included in the 2012.1A DVD. GTDI: Check DTCs, And
Calibration files may also be obtained at Reprogram The PCM (Do
www.motorcraft.com. Not Use With Any Other
Labor Operations)
NOTE:
The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do
the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper
vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by “do-it-yourselfers”. Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a
Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine
Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article.The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was
current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates.The most recent information is available
through Ford Motor Company’s on-line technical resources.
Copyright
ã 2012 Ford Motor Company Online Publication Date February 15, 2012 PAGE 1
TSB 12-2-10 (Continued)
120210B 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 1.0 Hr.
GTDI: Check DTCs,
Reprogram The PCM, And
Replace The Left Catalytic
Converter (Do Not Use
With Any Other Labor
Operations)
DEALER CODING
CONDITION
BASIC PART NO. CODE
RECALEM 04
PAGE 2
Last edited by Mojave Black; Mar 22, 2012 at 03:34 PM.
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Originally Posted by Mojave Black
Here is the 12-02-12 TSB info:
3.5L GTDI CALIBRATION UPDATE—VARIOUS TSB 12-2-10
ISSUES—BUILT ON OR BEFORE 2/7/2012
FORD:
2011-2012 F-150
ISSUE
NOTE
Some 2011-2012 F150 vehicles built on or before PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS
2/7/2012 and equipped with a 3.5L gasoline VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE
turbocharged direct injection (GTDI) engine may TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH
exhibit a malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) with ALLOWS THE VEHICLE’S COMPUTER TO LEARN
various diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) and THE TRANSMISSION’S UNIQUE PARAMETERS
driveability concerns. AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE
ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE
ACTION
COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY
condition. RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS
AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
PART NUMBER PART NAME
The calibration update contains improvement
actions and enhancements to address the following
BL3Z-5E212-E Converter Assy
conditions:
W520514-S440 Nuts
• Intermittent engine surge during moderate to light
loads at cruise.
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of
• Enhancements to misfire monitor detection. New Vehicle Limited
Warranty Coverage And
• Powertrain control module (PCM) DTC P0430 Emissions Warranty
and/or P0096. Coverage
NOTE
Warranty/ESP coverage
INSURE ALL HARD FAULT POWERTRAIN DTCS limits/policies/prior approvals
ARE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO PERFORMING THE are not altered by a TSB.
CALIBRATION UPDATE. Warranty/ESP coverage
limits are determined by the
1. If the vehicle exhibits DTC P0430 replace the identified causal part and
left bank catalytic converter. Refer to WSM verified using the OASIS
section 309-00. Proceed to Step 2. part coverage tool.
2. Reprogram the PCM to the latest calibration OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
using IDS release 77A.03A or higher. This new 120210A 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 0.4 Hr.
calibration is not included in the 2012.1A DVD. GTDI: Check DTCs, And
Calibration files may also be obtained at Reprogram The PCM (Do
www.motorcraft.com. Not Use With Any Other
Labor Operations)
NOTE:
The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do
the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper
vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by “do-it-yourselfers”. Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a
Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine
Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article.The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was
current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates.The most recent information is available
through Ford Motor Company’s on-line technical resources.
Copyright
ã 2012 Ford Motor Company Online Publication Date February 15, 2012 PAGE 1
TSB 12-2-10 (Continued)
120210B 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 1.0 Hr.
GTDI: Check DTCs,
Reprogram The PCM, And
Replace The Left Catalytic
Converter (Do Not Use
With Any Other Labor
Operations)
DEALER CODING
CONDITION
BASIC PART NO. CODE
RECALEM 04
PAGE 2
3.5L GTDI CALIBRATION UPDATE—VARIOUS TSB 12-2-10
ISSUES—BUILT ON OR BEFORE 2/7/2012
FORD:
2011-2012 F-150
ISSUE
NOTE
Some 2011-2012 F150 vehicles built on or before PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS
2/7/2012 and equipped with a 3.5L gasoline VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE
turbocharged direct injection (GTDI) engine may TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH
exhibit a malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) with ALLOWS THE VEHICLE’S COMPUTER TO LEARN
various diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) and THE TRANSMISSION’S UNIQUE PARAMETERS
driveability concerns. AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE
ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE
ACTION
COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY
condition. RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS
AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
PART NUMBER PART NAME
The calibration update contains improvement
actions and enhancements to address the following
BL3Z-5E212-E Converter Assy
conditions:
W520514-S440 Nuts
• Intermittent engine surge during moderate to light
loads at cruise.
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of
• Enhancements to misfire monitor detection. New Vehicle Limited
Warranty Coverage And
• Powertrain control module (PCM) DTC P0430 Emissions Warranty
and/or P0096. Coverage
NOTE
Warranty/ESP coverage
INSURE ALL HARD FAULT POWERTRAIN DTCS limits/policies/prior approvals
ARE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO PERFORMING THE are not altered by a TSB.
CALIBRATION UPDATE. Warranty/ESP coverage
limits are determined by the
1. If the vehicle exhibits DTC P0430 replace the identified causal part and
left bank catalytic converter. Refer to WSM verified using the OASIS
section 309-00. Proceed to Step 2. part coverage tool.
2. Reprogram the PCM to the latest calibration OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
using IDS release 77A.03A or higher. This new 120210A 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 0.4 Hr.
calibration is not included in the 2012.1A DVD. GTDI: Check DTCs, And
Calibration files may also be obtained at Reprogram The PCM (Do
www.motorcraft.com. Not Use With Any Other
Labor Operations)
NOTE:
The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do
the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper
vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by “do-it-yourselfers”. Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a
Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine
Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article.The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was
current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates.The most recent information is available
through Ford Motor Company’s on-line technical resources.
Copyright
ã 2012 Ford Motor Company Online Publication Date February 15, 2012 PAGE 1
TSB 12-2-10 (Continued)
120210B 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 1.0 Hr.
GTDI: Check DTCs,
Reprogram The PCM, And
Replace The Left Catalytic
Converter (Do Not Use
With Any Other Labor
Operations)
DEALER CODING
CONDITION
BASIC PART NO. CODE
RECALEM 04
PAGE 2
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From: Bradford, PA
I called my dealership today about a follow up appt for my low rpm / light load "misfire" sensation. The service dept told me that there is no fix available yet and refused to make an appt. This concerned me because I NEED 3 attemped fixes before I can claim lemon law. If they refuse to look at my truck, I can't obtain those 3 attempts.
Anyway, I called Ford customer service and the opened a case for my problem. Shortly after that, the dealership called me back and wants me to bring the truck in this afternoon. They mentioned something about getting me into a 2012 which doesn't have the problem. I am not sure if they are gonna offer me an even trade or what their intentions are. I will update this after my meeting this afternoon. Ford obviously contacted them. I am wondering if Ford told them to make a deal with me or if they are just doing it on their own.
Anyway, I called Ford customer service and the opened a case for my problem. Shortly after that, the dealership called me back and wants me to bring the truck in this afternoon. They mentioned something about getting me into a 2012 which doesn't have the problem. I am not sure if they are gonna offer me an even trade or what their intentions are. I will update this after my meeting this afternoon. Ford obviously contacted them. I am wondering if Ford told them to make a deal with me or if they are just doing it on their own.
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From: Bradford Ontario
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Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 63
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From: Bradford Ontario
I called my dealership today about a follow up appt for my low rpm / light load "misfire" sensation. The service dept told me that there is no fix available yet and refused to make an appt. This concerned me because I NEED 3 attemped fixes before I can claim lemon law. If they refuse to look at my truck, I can't obtain those 3 attempts.
Anyway, I called Ford customer service and the opened a case for my problem. Shortly after that, the dealership called me back and wants me to bring the truck in this afternoon. They mentioned something about getting me into a 2012 which doesn't have the problem. I am not sure if they are gonna offer me an even trade or what their intentions are. I will update this after my meeting this afternoon. Ford obviously contacted them. I am wondering if Ford told them to make a deal with me or if they are just doing it on their own.
Anyway, I called Ford customer service and the opened a case for my problem. Shortly after that, the dealership called me back and wants me to bring the truck in this afternoon. They mentioned something about getting me into a 2012 which doesn't have the problem. I am not sure if they are gonna offer me an even trade or what their intentions are. I will update this after my meeting this afternoon. Ford obviously contacted them. I am wondering if Ford told them to make a deal with me or if they are just doing it on their own.
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I just got back from my dealership and finally talked them in doing the 12-2-10 tsb to my truck next Monday. I had to call in the owner to get the service manager to do it.
My gas mileage around town is between 9.5 and 10.5 but doesn't seem to run bad does anyone out there think this will improve with the tsb?
My gas mileage around town is between 9.5 and 10.5 but doesn't seem to run bad does anyone out there think this will improve with the tsb?
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From: Fox Lake, IL
I just got back from my dealership and finally talked them in doing the 12-2-10 tsb to my truck next Monday. I had to call in the owner to get the service manager to do it.
My gas mileage around town is between 9.5 and 10.5 but doesn't seem to run bad does anyone out there think this will improve with the tsb?
My gas mileage around town is between 9.5 and 10.5 but doesn't seem to run bad does anyone out there think this will improve with the tsb?
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This mileage is strictly in town, 4 to 8 miles a day as I am working 12 hours on night shift. I have reset it once because after 2 weeks at 10.2 I reset it because of the warmer temperatures. This did not make a difference and this is with 1700 miles on the truck. I know its not really broken in yet but many seem to get decent mileage from the start. I will give Ford a few months to resolve the issues and if it ever bucks and snorts when I go to AL in a few weeks it will be gone.
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Joined: Dec 2011
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From: Fox Lake, IL
This mileage is strictly in town, 4 to 8 miles a day as I am working 12 hours on night shift. I have reset it once because after 2 weeks at 10.2 I reset it because of the warmer temperatures. This did not make a difference and this is with 1700 miles on the truck. I know its not really broken in yet but many seem to get decent mileage from the start. I will give Ford a few months to resolve the issues and if it ever bucks and snorts when I go to AL in a few weeks it will be gone.