fordguy2100

Yeah I've actually been to Brighton and Sundance while my brother was going to school out there. We are hoping to plan a park city/snowbird trip next winter! Oh and I'm on a slab of wood, my brother uses those silly skis

Jbrew

Hey white, you mentioned relays. Well, the furnace board/PCB's would be very simple to troubleshoot. There really isn't much to them, I know it no it wouldn't be a problem for you. I haven't spent any time on one yet, all I did is look at it real quick for the obvious, no evidence there. I'm thinking a relay went south... The igniter needs 115/120 from the board to energize, I was reading between 55-60 which is pretty much 1/2 the output and the problem. But yea, you said something having some spare relays, - that's a good thing to have on hand and most likley was the problem. There's 3 relays on the boards (3 isolated circuits), if any one goes out, you won't get ignition. Luckily it was the igniter relay (guessing it was the relay, haven't checked the board to confirm, not sure if I will lol) and nothing else, so the by-pass was nothing more than a circuit disconnect and lighting it up by hand at the correct time during the cycle. Everything else was working as it should. Anyway, very simple boards, nice and easy to work on if you want to spent the time. I had to go for the quick fix, to much other crap going on and that furnace was a mess, absolutely filthy, had 3 sets of stat wires connected to the board, 2 sets were abandoned, but never disconnected from terminals. Had to make sure they weren't causing the problem, then get rid of them...vac'ed out what I could for now, but lol.

Anyway, purchased a used board from a guy I went to school with, offered it for 20, gave him asking price, 40. It was most definitely worth it and he was between my place and kids the house, got it quick. I know the guarantee is good. They go for about 200 new. Had to go new on the motor, not a good idea to go used there, that was about 180. Saved her some cash and managed to keep them warm. It's a win, she didn't let me pay for anything and I earned 4 steak tacos to boot

Jbrew

2100- Can you get at those pipes in the wall? There are two products that will do the trick. One is from Owens Corning. It's 1" pipe insulator, inter locking with a fiberglass sleeve, R3/R4. There's another, I can't recall the name, starts with a M, same size with a better R rating. That's rated to -40 F. I researched that stuff last year for a spell. I don't think supply lines can be installed in perimeter walls up here, not to code anyway. I can look them up if you can't find them. It's not bad on cost from what I recall.

white89gt

A bunch of skiers got stuck up at the Snowbird resort a few days ago because an avalanche buried the road. Speaking of Park City and Sundance.... that's going on right now - the film festival, that is.

fordguy2100

Yeah I'm not sure what code is here, but after owning the house for 4.5years; there are quite a few issues with "code" in this house. Don't think it should've passed original state inspection. Problem is with the toilet, the line goes straight down into the floor and then, somewhere in the upstairs subfloor, it shoots out into the exterior wall and eventually into the garage (on the same wall). So I'd have to rip up my floor or ceiling just to see where it enters the wall and then tear into the wall.
Hopefully they got free lift tickets for being stuck up there lol. Probably worse places to get stuck. Yeah funny enough when my brother took me to Sundance to go snowboarding I didn't even put that connection together about the film fest

Jbrew

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white89gt

Dang.... that sucks. I hate trying to figure out somebody's mess they've left behind..... and just wondering where they've cut corners to save a buck. The toilet in my master bedroom borders an exterior wall. When we first moved in, I wondered why the supply line went through the floor instead of the wall, like the other bathroom. Took me a few minutes to realize it was a measure to keep it from freezing. Of course... I was wondering this when I replaced the toilets in August.... otherwise it may have dawned on me a little quicker, LOL.

fordguy2100

Another year and it will be! Lol. I've fixed all the wiring issues (once I saw the first issue I couldn't sleep til I fixed the rest) also been slowly upgrading parts of the house so I'm fixing things as I find them. Wife is done with her residency next spring and we plan to move back to southern Indiana and this house will just be a memory lol
Right!? Like if you aren't going to fix it right don't fix it! And if you don't know what you're doing, don't wing it; hire a professional. I hate having to fix unsafe or half assed "fixes" in a place I sleep and leave my wife and daughter sleeping... home should be safe not a ticking time bomb.

Also interesting, might've been the reasoning for my toilet too... except they either went back into the wall too early or there's other hidden issues I haven't found yet causing my pipes to freeze. The toilet freezes a couple times a winter. So far no burst lines. Going on 5yrs of ownership and it hasn't busted yet. I hope that's not a repair in my future lol... just one more winter to go! ??

Jbrew

If it's possible to shut the water off to line that's going to freeze, you can prevent a line from bursting. Unfortunately, that's not usually possible. It takes the right combination of pressure, expansion and freeze rate to burst copper. It's the thin stuff, anything less than Type M that likes to explode....huge mess lol. PVC/CPVC, - that stuff is weak as well. If you have good spec plumbing, it can freeze and thaw repeatedly. There's some really good pex stuff on the market, they have hose that can take severe climate change. Doubt I'll be using much copper in the future....they've come along way with that stuff. The only thing that sucks, you have to get tooled up for it. That's a little pricey.

OhioLariat

I was going to ask, 2100 - what's the plumbing material? If it's PEX, that stuff is pretty durable when it comes to freeze issues. If copper, then yeah, could be on borrowed time.

Brew: Do they actually allow PVC for supply lines in MI?
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