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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:10 PM
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Ehhh.... looks like I got my story slightly wrong about who is suggesting the fines.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/01/...r-air-quality/
Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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Looked temperature inversion up on Wikipedia. Said when the cap on the cold air breaks it leads to fast and nasty weather. Explains a lot about your pictures.
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Got the PLC's back, and they are up and running again. Luckily, no work tomorrow for me..... even after that 5 day Thanksgiving weekend, I'm exhausted after all of the issues this week.

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Originally Posted by River1
Looked temperature inversion up on Wikipedia. Said when the cap on the cold air breaks it leads to fast and nasty weather. Explains a lot about your pictures.
Also pretty wicked with smoke from fires. If you have ever let one smolder over night and noticed the smoke will rise in a low column, cool quickly, and settle back to earth following any depression in the ground. IE: creek beds or valleys

Sorry if I got carried away I just took my certification test for fire management.
Old Dec 5, 2019 | 08:01 PM
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Also pretty wicked with smoke from fires. If you have ever let one smolder over night and noticed the smoke will rise in a low column, cool quickly, and settle back to earth following any depression in the ground. IE: creek beds or valleys

Sorry if I got carried away I just took my certification test for fire management.
Spent a summer working part time for fire departments putting out train fires and cleaning up tracks to prevent fires but never been around a forest fire. Honestly, I don't mind either. By fire management do you mean controlled burns or managing all out forest fires?

I have been through the Appalachian's and seen dense fog settling just like you're describing. Going from bright sunlight to seeing nothing beyond 50 feet in front of you, if that much, wakes you up quick.

Feel free to get carried away whenever it suits you.
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Originally Posted by River1
Spent a summer working part time for fire departments putting out train fires and cleaning up tracks to prevent fires but never been around a forest fire. Honestly, I don't mind either. By fire management do you mean controlled burns or managing all out forest fires?

I have been through the Appalachian's and seen dense fog settling just like you're describing. Going from bright sunlight to seeing nothing beyond 50 feet in front of you, if that much, wakes you up quick.

Feel free to get carried away whenever it suits you.
By fire management I do mean controlled burn preparation and execution. As well as how to contain fires that have turned wild.

Forest fires can be pretty intense experiences. Trying to knock them down with a back pack sprayer, refilling with ditch water, until the fire plows get there is something else entirely.

That smoke fog mix really can scare the hell out of you when it sneaks up on you.
Old Dec 5, 2019 | 10:07 PM
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Thanks for the link Ohio, gonna have to pick me up one of those.

Gunna be busy this weekend but stay tuned Whitey and Ohio. Hopefully I can find the problem and fix it! I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place cz I want to be able to fix this but man not having a sub is killing me LOL I might just cave and buy one while I fiddle with this one
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Any time. Keep in mind a solder joint may not be cracked. A cold solder joint can be culprit as well. These are identified by a dull, crusty look rather than being smooth and (relatively) shiny.

Old Dec 5, 2019 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jprevat
By fire management I do mean controlled burn preparation and execution. As well as how to contain fires that have turned wild.

Forest fires can be pretty intense experiences. Trying to knock them down with a back pack sprayer, refilling with ditch water, until the fire plows get there is something else entirely.

That smoke fog mix really can scare the hell out of you when it sneaks up on you.
About 5 years ago I saw a news story on something like 60 Minutes about a wildfire in Arizona that claimed around 20 Smoke Jumpers. They got caught in an area where the tree tops over them were on fire and the fire was sucking all the air up. They had tent like aluminum shelters to protect them but they didn't help as the fire made it down to them. A lot of them suffocated before the fire and\or smoke made it to them. I can't imagine the sense of helplessness they must have experienced. My respect for you has taken a big jump with you training to fight these fires. It takes some big stones to accept this responsibility and there are more and more fires every year.
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Well thank you sir. It's really the responsible thing to do if you are in my line of work. Once the fire starts jumping tree tops nothing you do on the ground will matter and you should get out asap! I couldnt imagine what those guys went through.



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