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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tackle
I'm going on 3 years with a leaking head gasket around Cylinder 3-4. At least my starter stays well oiled.
Yea, I forgot about that one Tackle. That's if yours is suffering the old "burr problem" deal. It was a robotic mistake during assembly. Good to see your still around btw.
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Yea, I forgot about that one Tackle. That's if yours is suffering the old "burr problem" deal. It was a robotic mistake during assembly. Good to see your still around btw.
Yep still around. Might buy a newer f150 in the next year and throw a plow on this one as it's pushing 180k but doesn't have anything detrimental wrong with it and is in overall good shape.

Sorry for off topic OP.
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 09:38 PM
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Good to see you Tackle.
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Oh2supercrew
Ok. Amazon actually dropped off something before noon for one, made me happy!

So I plugged in the obd reader and went to the codes section. No stored codes. Then I went to the pending codes section. No pending codes.

🤷🏼‍♂️ Lol

so then I went through I/M and the other tests. I took pics of the screen. I did some quick googling. So it looks like it may be EVAP related? Can that really cause a stutter?
misfire won't set a code if it's not a constant misfire - i don't remember now exactly but the number 700 comes to mind - 700 / minute - maybe that's too high, but there is a fairly high threshold of misfires before the MIL will come on and a code is stored - i don't know what kind of reader that is you bought - it might be able to tell you the engine is misfiring somewhere - a better reader will be able to tell you which cylinder is misfiring - that's the difference between replacing all plugs and coils or just replacing the one set that isn't firing - $85 and you could get a proper reader


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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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The threshold is 20,224 misfires.
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 10:02 AM
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I once had a misfire that wasn't constant enough to pull a DTC. My truck had no codes, but it would misfire occasionally.

@Jbrew taught me to accelerate to 44mph, just before it kicks into overdrive and hold it there to force the misfire. It worked for me and I was able to force the code out which was a misfire on cylinder 3 I believe. I could be wrong about that part.

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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by joe8512
I once had a misfire that wasn't constant enough to pull a DTC. My truck had no codes, but it would misfire occasionally.

@Jbrew taught me to accelerate to 44mph, just before it kicks into overdrive and hold it there to force the misfire. It worked for me and I was able to force the code out which was a misfire on cylinder 3 I believe. I could be wrong about that part.

Well guys, once again thank you for the help. Of course I drove it a couple of miles yesterday and it was fine lol.

so I’ll keep on driving it like you recommend and I’ll try this trick to see if I can get it to “cough” lol.

updates to come.

edit: my wife came down with a rare spine disease so I’m trying to save money but I’m going to start buying (or trying at least) to buy a couple Motorcraft coils every paycheck and just replace them all and be done with it. Plugs too.

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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 11:48 AM
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Yeah, like was mentioned above, just before OD and in OD is where it shows up the most. I just had a #7 misfire, and rolling down I-80 at 70, going back and forth into 3rd and OD made mine illuminate pretty quick.
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
LOL. These trucks shouldn't leak anywhere...it's very rare. I guess the most common is a coolant leak behind the water pump into the block cavity. The o-rings (2) fail at the heater core hard-line connect there. You shine a flashlight behind the alternator into the cavity for evidence...it'll be wet. Also, if your intake is composite, they can crack with age. But other than that....
ill check this out, thank you!!! 😁
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by white89gt
The threshold is 20,224 misfires.
LMAO
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