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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 05:06 AM
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It is favored to move dear dot from 6 oclock to 7 and that puts keyway at 12 oclock . Some say its easier to see and relieves some valve pressure, links still install same way . single link on gear dot .
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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 09:31 AM
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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 09:50 AM
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Thx guys, I will be there again today after I get a bit of work done, then go over things again, one question what can I use to hold phasers to get them torqued if I have no special tool. I will take more pics also. I know the drivers side I should get whith turning phaser as 1/2 link off, but pass side more I think. What's weird is watch a few vids and Krazy how different people do it even with blk links. Thx
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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Darren123
Thx guys, I will be there again today after I get a bit of work done, then go over things again, one question what can I use to hold phasers to get them torqued if I have no special tool. I will take more pics also. I know the drivers side I should get whith turning phaser as 1/2 link off, but pass side more I think. What's weird is watch a few vids and Krazy how different people do it even with blk links. Thx
I used vice grips on the end of the cam shaft. Not the best but it worked, just make sure you get them good and tight and up against the back of the phaser. I got someone to hold them when I did the 90 after the initial torque.

Also in the video he is starting from scratch with all the lash adjusters out. Thought it might be a good reference near the end to see the markings. This guy has a bunch of good videos on Ford repair.
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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 10:33 AM
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^^^ ALL AGREED 100% ^^^ THE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL ISSUE IS CHAIN / GEAR MARKS ALIGN. After that, Everything else will fall into place because of those "****" on the front of Cams will not allow Phasers to be put on wrong, and Crankshaft keyway won't allow putting crank gear on wrong. Many begin to question their work after rotating the engine and find the marks are no longer aligned (As @redfishtd mentioned - they won't for another 122 revolutions).


Attached is the clearest diagram I've ran across.
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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 10:47 AM
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Ok perfect. I'll post later tonight with pics. Thx
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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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Lock your camshafts against movement with vise grips where you won't damage the lobes or journals with the valve covers removed.
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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 12:21 PM
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Ok thx
That is only ford videos I would trust lol
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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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Good, many didn't want to remove the spark plugs before 2007 for obvious breakage reasons. That is a whole lot of "can of worms" for your day if you have the old spark plugs. Lol If you go slow the compression isn't so bad. It can leak down with some few seconds having passed. You can hear it leaking off if you are in a quiet place. I like to do these things in quiet for complete concentration. Your ears can be a great tool. With the rockers off and spark plugs still in place, there is compression on every cylinder at any crank movement of an upward piston, reason to go slo if you don't want to chance broken spark plugs removal you can listen for the deep in the crankcase vent of compressed gas past the rings. Older engines don't seal up as tight as a new rebo in most instances.

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Old Nov 24, 2016 | 03:23 PM
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With the rockers off and spark plugs still in place, there is compression on every cylinder at any crank movement of an upward piston, reason to go slo ...



Holly smoke. I never tried that - but I'll bet if I did it wouldn't be a very quiet place for me grunting or screaming. FOUR pistons at a time would be fighting you - not only at any crank movement of an upward piston, but as compression bleed off those four, four others would be fighting you drawing a vacuum. Wouldn't they??


Bet I'd be removing a bunch of spark plugs.
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