The Ultimate MPG thread.
I have a 2015 4x4 Super Crew XLT with a 3.5L Ecoboost. I have almost 66K miles on it. I keep a spreadsheet and track my mileage. My cumulative MPG over the life of the truck is about 20.08. That being said, much of my driving is highway/suburban roads in hilly southwest PA. I've gotten as high as 27.1 mpg on a trip from my office north of Pittsburgh to Mentor OH, most of which was pretty flat. Yeah, I drive like a grandpa to get that kind of mileage. I get much over 65 MPH my MPG's drop. So the other thing is, the onboard computer underestimates my gas consumption by anywhere from 5 to 7 percent. So that 27.1 MPG trip actually was more like 25.5 MPG, which I'm still thrilled with for a full size crew cab 4x4 truck. Weather also makes a big difference in my mileage. I can't fit my truck in my garage so it sits out all winter. Cold temps drop my mileage on an average fill up by 2 mpg or more. The other thing I've done is used Muscle Products MT10 metal treatment as an oil additive. I think that's helped a little. I'm needing new tires soon and am anxious to see what effect new tires will have. Anyone here run Michelin Defender LTX M&S2 tires?
Last edited by Wexford F150 Owner; Jul 8, 2018 at 08:45 AM. Reason: fix typo
Hey, I'm looking for some opinions. Sorry if didn't search hard enough for the info i need.
I just bought my first F150 a few months ago and i'm a little concerned about the mileage i'm getting thus far. The truck is a 2018 f150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost. It had 15 miles on it when i picked it up and since then i've put a little over 1200 miles on it. I drive about 80% city and 20% highway.
I'm averaging 13 MPGs which seems a little low to me based on ratings as well as reports from other F 150 owners.
Is this normal? Is something wrong?
I just bought my first F150 a few months ago and i'm a little concerned about the mileage i'm getting thus far. The truck is a 2018 f150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost. It had 15 miles on it when i picked it up and since then i've put a little over 1200 miles on it. I drive about 80% city and 20% highway.
I'm averaging 13 MPGs which seems a little low to me based on ratings as well as reports from other F 150 owners.
Is this normal? Is something wrong?
Just returned from a 4200 mile drive through OH- IN - IL - WI - MN - WY - NE - IA - IL - IN - OH.
2018 3.5 eco, 145" Screw, max tow, 4x4. Family of 4 in the truck and bed full of luggage, coolers, etc. Truck had 1000 mi on it at the start of the trip.
Tracked each tank best was 22.3, worst was 18.9. Best was driving predominately through yellowstone and the grand tetons. My bad tanks (2 @ 18.9) were in the 80 MPH WY highways.
Overall trip average was 20.2 MPG.
A few questions / observations:
Speed has a big impact (as widely discussed). 10 - 15 MPH headwind has the same impact.
I was wondering about ethanol blends (10% - 15%). Does that hurt mileage? Nebraska advertised their 15% ethonol blend and Super 87. Not sure I agree.
Does a tonneau help or hurt mileage?
Altitude did not seem to make a noticeable different.
2018 3.5 eco, 145" Screw, max tow, 4x4. Family of 4 in the truck and bed full of luggage, coolers, etc. Truck had 1000 mi on it at the start of the trip.
Tracked each tank best was 22.3, worst was 18.9. Best was driving predominately through yellowstone and the grand tetons. My bad tanks (2 @ 18.9) were in the 80 MPH WY highways.
Overall trip average was 20.2 MPG.
A few questions / observations:
Speed has a big impact (as widely discussed). 10 - 15 MPH headwind has the same impact.
I was wondering about ethanol blends (10% - 15%). Does that hurt mileage? Nebraska advertised their 15% ethonol blend and Super 87. Not sure I agree.
Does a tonneau help or hurt mileage?
Altitude did not seem to make a noticeable different.
Speed and/or headwind = less MPG
Ethanol has less heat content per gallon so mileage will suffer.
Supposedly Ford designed it for best mileage w/o cover. YMMV literally.
My 2011 seems to get better mileage at altitude. Esp noticeable >10,000 ft. Less power too.
Ethanol has less heat content per gallon so mileage will suffer.
Supposedly Ford designed it for best mileage w/o cover. YMMV literally.
My 2011 seems to get better mileage at altitude. Esp noticeable >10,000 ft. Less power too.
New to me lease return truck, 15,000 miles...just sold off my 2007, almost identical truck.
Did a 4 day visit to the Calgary Stampede, about 638 mile drive..Filled the truck eastbound in Armstrong BC, at $ 1.349 still in the flatlands and headed up into the Rockies.
the MPG s read 21.6 so I'm happy with that, coming from my'07 5.4 that could RARELY get 15 mpg on the highway,
On the way back, filled up first with gas at Costco Calgary at $ 1.209 per LITER.
Probably not surprisingly, the MPG was the same on the way back 21.6
The BAD thing was that gas in BC has gone up to $1.479 a LITER..a quart mayonnaise jar - full, thats about $ 5.56 per US GALLON. HIGHWAY robbery !
That said, I sure like this truck (more than my wifes new '18 Cadillac XT5..girly car.) Since I'm 70, this ride will outlive me, Im sure
Did a 4 day visit to the Calgary Stampede, about 638 mile drive..Filled the truck eastbound in Armstrong BC, at $ 1.349 still in the flatlands and headed up into the Rockies.
the MPG s read 21.6 so I'm happy with that, coming from my'07 5.4 that could RARELY get 15 mpg on the highway,
On the way back, filled up first with gas at Costco Calgary at $ 1.209 per LITER.
Probably not surprisingly, the MPG was the same on the way back 21.6
The BAD thing was that gas in BC has gone up to $1.479 a LITER..a quart mayonnaise jar - full, thats about $ 5.56 per US GALLON. HIGHWAY robbery !
That said, I sure like this truck (more than my wifes new '18 Cadillac XT5..girly car.) Since I'm 70, this ride will outlive me, Im sure
Last edited by 2017SuperCrew; Jul 10, 2018 at 02:04 AM.
I have a 2015 4x4 Super Crew XLT with a 3.5L Ecoboost. I have almost 66K miles on it. I keep a spreadsheet and track my mileage. My cumulative MPG over the life of the truck is about 20.08. That being said, much of my driving is highway/suburban roads in hilly southwest PA. I've gotten as high as 27.1 mpg on a trip from my office north of Pittsburgh to Mentor OH, most of which was pretty flat. Yeah, I drive like a grandpa to get that kind of mileage. I get much over 65 MPH my MPG's drop. So the other thing is, the onboard computer underestimates my gas consumption by anywhere from 5 to 7 percent. So that 27.1 MPG trip actually was more like 25.5 MPG, which I'm still thrilled with for a full size crew cab 4x4 truck. Weather also makes a big difference in my mileage. I can't fit my truck in my garage so it sits out all winter. Cold temps drop my mileage on an average fill up by 2 mpg or more. The other thing I've done is used Muscle Products MT10 metal treatment as an oil additive. I think that's helped a little. I'm needing new tires soon and am anxious to see what effect new tires will have. Anyone here run Michelin Defender LTX M&S2 tires?
Hey, I'm looking for some opinions. Sorry if didn't search hard enough for the info i need.
I just bought my first F150 a few months ago and i'm a little concerned about the mileage i'm getting thus far. The truck is a 2018 f150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost. It had 15 miles on it when i picked it up and since then i've put a little over 1200 miles on it. I drive about 80% city and 20% highway.
I'm averaging 13 MPGs which seems a little low to me based on ratings as well as reports from other F 150 owners.
Is this normal? Is something wrong?
I just bought my first F150 a few months ago and i'm a little concerned about the mileage i'm getting thus far. The truck is a 2018 f150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost. It had 15 miles on it when i picked it up and since then i've put a little over 1200 miles on it. I drive about 80% city and 20% highway.
I'm averaging 13 MPGs which seems a little low to me based on ratings as well as reports from other F 150 owners.
Is this normal? Is something wrong?
I'd suspect the turbo trucks would really like running on a 30% blend. I'd probably prefer running one without ethanol at all, and a good tune with progressive water/methanol injection... but that's just a hallucination.
Last edited by Eric Kleven; Jul 10, 2018 at 01:37 PM.
Engines today will retard timing and add fuel in response to knock but I don't know how many will advance timing and cut fuel until they get knock thus adjusting for optimum mileage. My next car will probably be electric anyway.
Running a turbo engine on 85% ethanol for more performance is common but I don't think you get more mileage.
From Google (Wikipedia):
"Ethanol and fuels like E85. 1.5 gallons of ethanol has the same energy content as 1.0 gallon of gasoline. A flex-fuel vehicle will experience about 76% of the fuel mileage MPG when using E85 (85% ethanol) products as compared to 100%gasoline. ... Pure ethanol provides 2/3 of the heat value available in pure gasoline."
33% is a lot to make up.
So 90% gasoline and 10% ethanol has 96.6% the heat value as gasoline.
80% gasoline and 20% ethanol has 93.2%
70% gasoline and 30% ethanol has 89.8%
So to equal the mileage, you would have to be about 10% more efficient overall. Seems like the car makers would be all over getting 10% more mileage for CAFE.
Running a turbo engine on 85% ethanol for more performance is common but I don't think you get more mileage.
From Google (Wikipedia):
"Ethanol and fuels like E85. 1.5 gallons of ethanol has the same energy content as 1.0 gallon of gasoline. A flex-fuel vehicle will experience about 76% of the fuel mileage MPG when using E85 (85% ethanol) products as compared to 100%gasoline. ... Pure ethanol provides 2/3 of the heat value available in pure gasoline."
33% is a lot to make up.
So 90% gasoline and 10% ethanol has 96.6% the heat value as gasoline.
80% gasoline and 20% ethanol has 93.2%
70% gasoline and 30% ethanol has 89.8%
So to equal the mileage, you would have to be about 10% more efficient overall. Seems like the car makers would be all over getting 10% more mileage for CAFE.







