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I really like the Rivian too. And that gear tunnel. I'm only skeptical because they have never built anything. That could be a plus.
I understand that Ford did not want to deviate from the tried and true F150 too much At first. But that shifter has no place in an EV.
Just think if it wasn't there, you would not have to fold it out of the way to access that work space. It would make a great table to eat off of on the road.
BTW the Lightning has the spare in the right place. Not in the bed.
I understand that Ford did not want to deviate from the tried and true F150 too much At first. But that shifter has no place in an EV.
Just think if it wasn't there, you would not have to fold it out of the way to access that work space. It would make a great table to eat off of on the road.
BTW the Lightning has the spare in the right place. Not in the bed.
I realize you just said the shifter has no place in an EV and didn't say bring on the rotary, but since Ford I think only puts either a shifter or the rotary in their Ford vehicle line, I was just commenting from that perspective.
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Yeah, I suspect I will grow to appreciate it. Will have to wait until I can see more of them in person.
I just watched the Motor Trend ride review of it, very cool truck. I don't hate the look, it's a bit softer maybe than an F-150, but it looks like it was designed around being capable first and the looks were second, but not miles back like I feel the CyberTruck landed.
The quad motor setup though is going to be a killer feature, plus air bags. It will be hard to pick a Platinum Lightning over one of those assuming options packages are roughly equivalent for creature comforts, since that's what you are mainly paying for once you step up to the Platinum. If the R1T doesn't get Platinum level stuff until $95k, then that gives the F-150 a consistent advantage.
But even in the snow, being able to modulate each wheels power down to the percent will make the R1T pretty incredible.
I think the Lightning is still the right move for Ford, it isn't so far out there that it embarrasses the ICE offering which is what putting some of that stuff exclusively on the Lightning would do, while probably raising the price. I feel like Ford invested in Rivian because they want a piece of their tech in the long run, and it's a good move. They are going to learn a lot together about building vehicles in this space in a short period of time.
I just watched the Motor Trend ride review of it, very cool truck. I don't hate the look, it's a bit softer maybe than an F-150, but it looks like it was designed around being capable first and the looks were second, but not miles back like I feel the CyberTruck landed.
The quad motor setup though is going to be a killer feature, plus air bags. It will be hard to pick a Platinum Lightning over one of those assuming options packages are roughly equivalent for creature comforts, since that's what you are mainly paying for once you step up to the Platinum. If the R1T doesn't get Platinum level stuff until $95k, then that gives the F-150 a consistent advantage.
But even in the snow, being able to modulate each wheels power down to the percent will make the R1T pretty incredible.
I think the Lightning is still the right move for Ford, it isn't so far out there that it embarrasses the ICE offering which is what putting some of that stuff exclusively on the Lightning would do, while probably raising the price. I feel like Ford invested in Rivian because they want a piece of their tech in the long run, and it's a good move. They are going to learn a lot together about building vehicles in this space in a short period of time.
I really like the Rivian too. And that gear tunnel. I'm only skeptical because they have never built anything. That could be a plus.
I understand that Ford did not want to deviate from the tried and true F150 too much At first. But that shifter has no place in an EV.
Just think if it wasn't there, you would not have to fold it out of the way to access that work space. It would make a great table to eat off of on the road.
BTW the Lightning has the spare in the right place. Not in the bed.
I understand that Ford did not want to deviate from the tried and true F150 too much At first. But that shifter has no place in an EV.
Just think if it wasn't there, you would not have to fold it out of the way to access that work space. It would make a great table to eat off of on the road.
BTW the Lightning has the spare in the right place. Not in the bed.
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Yeah I'd vote for the good ole console shifter over the rotary. It would take a very long time to become as intimately and subconsciously competent with the rotary (esp since the asinine thing can bounce back if moved too quickly) for urgent/emergency changes. And there's just something more correct about the feeling of physically engaging that you get from a more traditional shifter.
Our Explorer has the **** and it's simply inferior, though it does work so it's not a deal breaker, but, yeah, don't really want it
Our Explorer has the **** and it's simply inferior, though it does work so it's not a deal breaker, but, yeah, don't really want it
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From: Austin TX
I’d be interested to know if a set of factory pull off wheels and tires from a gasoline truck would bolt up to the lightning.
I typically buy an XLT truck and swap at least the tires and sometimes wheels out as soon as I get it home. A set of pull offs from a Lariat or platinum truck would be cool on the lightning.
I’ve put a couple Katzkin interiors in my last 2 trucks myself so I about have that down to a science. That would be neat to do as well.
I wonder if Ford or an aftermarket company will offer a chrome grille for one? I’m old school and still like my chrome on my trucks.
I typically buy an XLT truck and swap at least the tires and sometimes wheels out as soon as I get it home. A set of pull offs from a Lariat or platinum truck would be cool on the lightning.
I’ve put a couple Katzkin interiors in my last 2 trucks myself so I about have that down to a science. That would be neat to do as well.
I wonder if Ford or an aftermarket company will offer a chrome grille for one? I’m old school and still like my chrome on my trucks.
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Ford claims they have kept the price of the Lightning down by using old ICE F150 parts. So I'm sure wheels and tires would swap. I'm pretty sure the GVW is the same. But with the coil spring rear suspension and large battery it may be different. If it is more then the ICE wheels mat not be rated for the Lightning. The seats are supposed to be the same. Ford said that they buy about 4M of those seats annually so it did not make sense to redesign them. That explains the folding 'shifter'.
I think about anything can be chromed. Maybe a vinyl wrap for the grill.
I think about anything can be chromed. Maybe a vinyl wrap for the grill.
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"The [Lightning's] wheels are specific to handle the weight load," Turnbull explained. "We are not sharing wheels with the [gas-powered] F-150."