Originally Posted by 7cbreeze

Well the answer is simple as to why these states have those wind farms......Government subsidy, and tax credits. a corrupt political class knows no party,,After the disaster in Texas that state is really looking into more conventional power systems.
The numbers needed to grow the Grid will not be done with the current technology ,,

Originally Posted by 7cbreeze

Well the answer is simple as to why these states have those wind farms......Government subsidy, and tax credits. a corrupt political class knows no party,,After the disaster in Texas that state is really looking into more conventional power systems.
The numbers needed to grow the Grid will not be done with the current technology ,,

Originally Posted by bisonp

Wind farms are becoming a blight upon the land. How any true environmentalist can't see that is beyond me, I guess they probably never leave the city.

Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker

Amen....though I would argue that solar farms are even worse! At least under the windmills the land is still usable.

P.S. Of course, we are just cavemen that are behind the times! ROFL

P.P.S. I would also argue that cities are an even bigger blight upon the land! But environmentalists love them................

Originally Posted by bisonp

Yeah. Unusable land or something that can be seen for miles? I have seen so many complain about oil derricks spoiling natural beauty but those same people are OK with wind farms.

There are no easy answers, I suppose. I'd like to see more nuclear but that is also certainly not without some risk. China is bringing a new nuclear plant online every 2-3 months. That's the kind of aggressive buildout we need to be doing right now.

Originally Posted by [F2C]MaDMaXX

The problems they had were absolutely nothing to do with the solutions they generate power from.
It's an isolated mishmash of a system with little to no coordination and everyman for themselves.


This is a very enlightening video for the technical among you.

https://youtu.be/08mwXICY4JM

Originally Posted by 7cbreeze

What is not told is notice the coal production,,,, not much , look at the production in coal 15 year ago.. Texas had to get rid of their Coal plants get green credits with wind and solar and try to balance the load with NG plants... Big mistake.. Texas is used to being very warm , heck the majority of their housing lacks insulation specs like the more northern states , was no need for it,, also the NG is not uniform ...many states use NG underground HP lines where the gas is not exposed to various temp changes,,Why did texas even have to ask the Super Smart EPA to allow them to exceed their exhaust emissions ,, HMMM.. The Federal system required them and others to shut down plants { Coal } because of emissions standards.. the 1990 had a clean standard,except for co2.. Oh by the way look at the solar system, the amount of Silver each panel uses,, we dont have enough silver including melting down grandmas silverware to meet the production needs.. Would be nice if we had developed a better battery for a power wall , some day maybe.. T
the overall piece was good , most people just turn on a switch not understanding the balance of power needed for grid . the load balance is a modern marvel in its own right..

Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle

I get no enjoyment correcting the lack of knowledge, misstating of facts, alternate facts, and just plain lying. I see a statement like the one above, and just go OMG!

Of course, these people have absolutely no proof of their theories, because they don't post them.

This purpose of this thread is to discuss the new Ford Lightning BEV. Should a responsible forum member just say "Oh well" when they see people being mislead by lies? We call out crooked dealers, parts suppliers that don't deliver, and many other subjects that are not good for forum members. But lies put out by people spreading propaganda for the oil companies are sacred? Why do they love the oil companies so much?

For instance, if solar and wind are not economically viable, as stated above, why does the state of Texas, and these other states, have so many windmills generating electricity? Is Texas being run by Liberals? Why are they spending money on uneconomical windmills?

Notice anything? Are 4 out of 5 states with the most windmills RED states? How come?



And then we go to solar. What are those commies in Texas up to? Don't they know that solar collectors to generate electricity don't work and are too expensive? Apparently not.





Oops, 3 out of 4 in the top 4, are RED states. WTF are they doing, building those damn solar plants. "Forcing their adoption for idealogical reasons will lower our standard of living", says the guy above.

So you people in those RED states above take note. Your state government elected officials are looking to lower your standard of living. Why???

Let's put this thread back on topic. As long as no one posts provably wrong stuff about America's electrical grid, I won't have to correct them. I love it!

But wake up and smell the coffee, people, BEV's are coming, and if we, the USA, don't keep up, the Chinese will be glad to fill in for us around the world.