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Old Jun 7, 2021 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by z8uuuuuuuuuuudh
Just don't expect it to do truck things.
Please stop with the news medifors ,fax ,,, faux,, CNN commie new network and on and on..The Bottom line for any electric truck or auto for that matter comes down to the battery.. You can wish for a different outcome ,,lol the reasons for electric autos is tiresome and very very weak.all of the wind power , all of the the solar is a mear fraction of what is needed .. get off the coolaid , get some reality and pray for graphene
Old Jun 7, 2021 | 03:06 AM
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Elon is ,, I think he is looking at mars and beyond for that matter
Old Jun 7, 2021 | 06:14 AM
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Elon is ,, I think he is looking at mars and beyond for that matter
Trying to get himself and his girlfriend back to their home planet.
Old Jun 7, 2021 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by z8uuuuuuuuuuudh
Just don't expect it to do truck things.
What I don't expect is to see any intelligent or meaningful posts from You!
I don't know what these big amazing "truck things" are that you do but you must be an amazing person who does amazing things...congratulations!!!

You made your views on the Lightning very clear about 500 posts ago and every fourth post since.
You just keep saying the same thing over and over and over... posting conjecture without anything of value.

We get it!
Old Jun 7, 2021 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu Cazzo
What I don't expect is to see any intelligent or meaningful posts from You!
I don't know what these big amazing "truck things" are that you do but you must be an amazing person who does amazing things...congratulations!!!

You made your views on the Lightning very clear about 500 posts ago and every fourth post since.
You just keep saying the same thing over and over and over... posting conjecture without anything of value.

We get it!
I don't get it.. how some people can be so short sided.


Old Jun 7, 2021 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by idrive
I don't get it.. how some people can be so short sided.
I say let those that want electric trucks buy them, but leave those of us that prefer ICE trucks to buy those too!

I remember years ago, my BiL who is an automotive engineer was telling me that we had to kill ICEs and go to all electric cars. He was sitting in a lawn chair with his Harley behind him in the driveway. He had it piped, it had a loud pop to the exhaust as he drove it down the road, and he loved that thing. I pointed to it and said: "So you are going to go to an electric Harley?" He glared at me and never answered................
Old Jun 7, 2021 | 06:32 PM
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The biggest issue here is that solar and wind are simply not economically viable compared to fossil fuels. Forcing their adoption for idealogical reasons will lower our standard of living. As this becomes apparent solar and wind will be relegated to applications where they actually make sense. Again, just my prediction.
I get no enjoyment correcting the lack of knowledge, misstating of facts, alternate facts, and just plain lying. I see a statement like the one above, and just go OMG!

Of course, these people have absolutely no proof of their theories, because they don't post them.

This purpose of this thread is to discuss the new Ford Lightning BEV. Should a responsible forum member just say "Oh well" when they see people being mislead by lies? We call out crooked dealers, parts suppliers that don't deliver, and many other subjects that are not good for forum members. But lies put out by people spreading propaganda for the oil companies are sacred? Why do they love the oil companies so much?

For instance, if solar and wind are not economically viable, as stated above, why does the state of Texas, and these other states, have so many windmills generating electricity? Is Texas being run by Liberals? Why are they spending money on uneconomical windmills?

Notice anything? Are 4 out of 5 states with the most windmills RED states? How come?

The five states with the most wind capacity installed at the end of 2020 were:
  • Texas (33,133 MW)
  • Iowa (11,660 MW)
  • Oklahoma (9,048 MW)
  • Kansas (7,016 MW)
  • Illinois (6,409 MW)
And then we go to solar. What are those commies in Texas up to? Don't they know that solar collectors to generate electricity don't work and are too expensive? Apparently not.

How many solar farms are in Texas?
There are now 17 solar facilities in Texas, including 13 that can produce at least 100 megawatts of power, according to SEIA.Aug 13, 2020
Solar capacity by state
Top 10 states generating electricity from solar- shown in thousand megawatt-hours)
State March-21
California 4,570
Texas 1,172
Florida 905 6.7
North Carolina 879
Oops, 3 out of 4 in the top 4, are RED states. WTF are they doing, building those damn solar plants. "Forcing their adoption for idealogical reasons will lower our standard of living", says the guy above.

So you people in those RED states above take note. Your state government elected officials are looking to lower your standard of living. Why???

Let's put this thread back on topic. As long as no one posts provably wrong stuff about America's electrical grid, I won't have to correct them. I love it!

But wake up and smell the coffee, people, BEV's are coming, and if we, the USA, don't keep up, the Chinese will be glad to fill in for us around the world.

At the end of 2020, an important milestone was reached when 4.92 million new energy vehicles (NEVs), including battery electric, plug-in hybrid, and fuel cell vehicles, were operating on China's roads.







Old Jun 8, 2021 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
I get no enjoyment correcting the lack of knowledge, misstating of facts, alternate facts, and just plain lying. I see a statement like the one above, and just go OMG!

Of course, these people have absolutely no proof of their theories, because they don't post them.

This purpose of this thread is to discuss the new Ford Lightning BEV. Should a responsible forum member just say "Oh well" when they see people being mislead by lies? We call out crooked dealers, parts suppliers that don't deliver, and many other subjects that are not good for forum members. But lies put out by people spreading propaganda for the oil companies are sacred? Why do they love the oil companies so much?

For instance, if solar and wind are not economically viable, as stated above, why does the state of Texas, and these other states, have so many windmills generating electricity? Is Texas being run by Liberals? Why are they spending money on uneconomical windmills?

Notice anything? Are 4 out of 5 states with the most windmills RED states? How come?



And then we go to solar. What are those commies in Texas up to? Don't they know that solar collectors to generate electricity don't work and are too expensive? Apparently not.





Oops, 3 out of 4 in the top 4, are RED states. WTF are they doing, building those damn solar plants. "Forcing their adoption for idealogical reasons will lower our standard of living", says the guy above.

So you people in those RED states above take note. Your state government elected officials are looking to lower your standard of living. Why???

Let's put this thread back on topic. As long as no one posts provably wrong stuff about America's electrical grid, I won't have to correct them. I love it!

But wake up and smell the coffee, people, BEV's are coming, and if we, the USA, don't keep up, the Chinese will be glad to fill in for us around the world.
Well the answer is simple as to why these states have those wind farms......Government subsidy, and tax credits. a corrupt political class knows no party,,After the disaster in Texas that state is really looking into more conventional power systems.
The numbers needed to grow the Grid will not be done with the current technology ,,
Old Jun 8, 2021 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 7cbreeze
Well the answer is simple as to why these states have those wind farms......Government subsidy, and tax credits. a corrupt political class knows no party,,After the disaster in Texas that state is really looking into more conventional power systems.
The numbers needed to grow the Grid will not be done with the current technology ,,
The problems they had were absolutely nothing to do with the solutions they generate power from.
It's an isolated mishmash of a system with little to no coordination and everyman for themselves.


This is a very enlightening video for the technical among you.

Old Jun 8, 2021 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
I get no enjoyment correcting the lack of knowledge, misstating of facts, alternate facts, and just plain lying. I see a statement like the one above, and just go OMG!

Of course, these people have absolutely no proof of their theories, because they don't post them.

This purpose of this thread is to discuss the new Ford Lightning BEV. Should a responsible forum member just say "Oh well" when they see people being mislead by lies? We call out crooked dealers, parts suppliers that don't deliver, and many other subjects that are not good for forum members. But lies put out by people spreading propaganda for the oil companies are sacred? Why do they love the oil companies so much?

For instance, if solar and wind are not economically viable, as stated above, why does the state of Texas, and these other states, have so many windmills generating electricity? Is Texas being run by Liberals? Why are they spending money on uneconomical windmills?

Notice anything? Are 4 out of 5 states with the most windmills RED states? How come?



And then we go to solar. What are those commies in Texas up to? Don't they know that solar collectors to generate electricity don't work and are too expensive? Apparently not.





Oops, 3 out of 4 in the top 4, are RED states. WTF are they doing, building those damn solar plants. "Forcing their adoption for idealogical reasons will lower our standard of living", says the guy above.

So you people in those RED states above take note. Your state government elected officials are looking to lower your standard of living. Why???

Let's put this thread back on topic. As long as no one posts provably wrong stuff about America's electrical grid, I won't have to correct them. I love it!

But wake up and smell the coffee, people, BEV's are coming, and if we, the USA, don't keep up, the Chinese will be glad to fill in for us around the world.
So what is your hot take on solar cells limited life-span, and the environmental cost of disposing of depleted solar cells, and the creation of new ones?



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