Is the complexity of powerboost worth it ?
I question the 5.0 getting almost as good fuel mileage as the PowerBoost.
Driven very conservatively at 60 mph on a flat surface, I was able to get 31 mpg according to the computer on my well-optioned PowerBoost 4x4 with 6.5' bed. I don't know how accurate it is but will find out when I fill it up again.
My previous 5.0 4x4 on the 2016, it usually got 27 then I added the shell thinking it'd improve the aerodynamics, but it dropped to 22.
Driven very conservatively at 60 mph on a flat surface, I was able to get 31 mpg according to the computer on my well-optioned PowerBoost 4x4 with 6.5' bed. I don't know how accurate it is but will find out when I fill it up again.
My previous 5.0 4x4 on the 2016, it usually got 27 then I added the shell thinking it'd improve the aerodynamics, but it dropped to 22.
I question the 5.0 getting almost as good fuel mileage as the PowerBoost.
Driven very conservatively at 60 mph on a flat surface, I was able to get 31 mpg according to the computer on my well-optioned PowerBoost 4x4 with 6.5' bed. I don't know how accurate it is but will find out when I fill it up again.
My previous 5.0 4x4 on the 2016, it usually got 27 then I added the shell thinking it'd improve the aerodynamics, but it dropped to 22.
Driven very conservatively at 60 mph on a flat surface, I was able to get 31 mpg according to the computer on my well-optioned PowerBoost 4x4 with 6.5' bed. I don't know how accurate it is but will find out when I fill it up again.
My previous 5.0 4x4 on the 2016, it usually got 27 then I added the shell thinking it'd improve the aerodynamics, but it dropped to 22.
The 5.0 will be slightly better on the highway, but the PB will destroy it in the city. I easily can get 22-23 mpg combined in the Powerboost, where it was closer to 18 in the 5.0. Both are great engines, but fuel mileage is not an advantage of the 5.0 over the PB- and 20% better mileage isn’t minor.
Once in a while, the Powerboost kicks in when I am driving at 45 mph due to traffic congestion so mileage is great if I'm moving slowly in Los Angeles or San Diego, but not when I am going 75 in the desert.
Do you have a shell on yours? If you don't have one, just don't. I learned the hard way it was a huge mileage killer. Everything else was the same, including tires.
Once in a while, the Powerboost kicks in when I am driving at 45 mph due to traffic congestion so mileage is great if I'm moving slowly in Los Angeles or San Diego, but not when I am going 75 in the desert.
Once in a while, the Powerboost kicks in when I am driving at 45 mph due to traffic congestion so mileage is great if I'm moving slowly in Los Angeles or San Diego, but not when I am going 75 in the desert.
i have a cover, but no shell. And you’re right, on the highway at 75 mph, my Powerboost barely gets 19 mpg. I think the 5.0 has a definite advantage in that scenario.
There's cylinder deactivation so at times it's a 4-cylinder, the 3.5 EB and PB does not do that. My Chevrolet Cheyenne with V8 got fantastic gas mileage, about the same as my current 3.5 PB, but overall, it was worse because.. hills.. why did we put streets on hills...
The real question is...
Is the extra cost, weight and technical equipment (battery etc.) worth the extra cost in comparison to the very trivial increase in fuel mileage.
If a person wants it for portable onboard power supply maybe.
But a 7kwh generator can be had for under $1k
And my 5.0 gets almost as good fuel mileage as the powerboost.
Is the extra cost, weight and technical equipment (battery etc.) worth the extra cost in comparison to the very trivial increase in fuel mileage.
If a person wants it for portable onboard power supply maybe.
But a 7kwh generator can be had for under $1k
And my 5.0 gets almost as good fuel mileage as the powerboost.
But the PB has significantly more power, can continue to run A/C even when the engine is off, and in general is just such a smooth powertrain.
The generator comparison is laughable. There are not many 7kW+ Inverter generators out there for under $1k. A quick check and I found one on sale right at the $1k mark, but now you have an 118lb generator you have to fuel and maintain and store. Or it can just be part of the truck, usable at home or work or on the road.
With the rebates Ford has on the PB, the cost isn't even much of a concern. A friend of mine just got his '23 PowerBoost, wasn't even looking to get it, but Ford had rebates on the PB specifically that made it the same price as if he ordered another 2.7L EB (which he has had in two F-150s so far and intended to just keep getting). So while rebates are variable, there isn't a guarantee that you even pay more for the PB.
In almost every metric the PB beats the 5.0, especially when taken as a total ownership average (average overall fuel economy and all that, not just focusing on micro-differences based on variables mentioned earlier). The only place the 5.0 beats it is you are likely to get a higher payload on a like-for-like F-150 between a 5.0 and PB. But if you are doing something that is pushing payload limits with the F-150 anyway, you should get the 3.5L, not the 5.0. Because in that case you are likely towing and the 3.5L is just going to be better at towing in nearly every scenario.
I know it's just my opinion, but the only reason the 5.0 has reason to exist is for those that just want the sound or for that very narrow cross section of people that frequently tow 3000-5000lbs where the 5.0 is still plenty of engine for the tow, but will often get better fuel mileage than almost any other engine. If you are doing that basically every day or at least most weekends, I can see that fuel savings adding up big time. But otherwise, the 5.0 is only interesting where it started, in a Mustang.
Well the PB isn't about fuel mileage, so if that's your only concern then maybe not? But the mileage improvement in the city blows away the 5.0, easily seeing 24-29 MPG city in the summer driving around town in the 45-50 MPH range. The highway mileage is similar enough, with comparisons coming down to variables (wind, elevation, etc).
I have closely watched and read almost all the threads involving the Powerboost and the most recurring concerns are the much lower than anticipated mileage.
I don't know that I have read anywhere from owners that they are getting 29mpg in the city and if you are thats great!!
I do mostly highway mileage and I average 23-24mpg with my 5.0 which I think is pretty good.
But the PB has significantly more power, can continue to run A/C even when the engine is off, and in general is just such a smooth powertrain.
Okay, but this "significantly more power" comes from the 3.5 ecoboost engine...not from the powerboost.
The generator comparison is laughable. There are not many 7kW+ Inverter generators out there for under $1k. A quick check and I found one on sale right at the $1k mark, but now you have an 118lb generator you have to fuel and maintain and store. Or it can just be part of the truck, usable at home or work or on the road.
Its like I said...if the person requires portable power it may be worth it so this isn't really an argument.
I installed a 26kwh 200amp whole home generac at my new build.
If i'm away it texts me if it starts up and sends me diagnostic info so I know i'm protected.
With the rebates Ford has on the PB, the cost isn't even much of a concern. A friend of mine just got his '23 PowerBoost, wasn't even looking to get it, but Ford had rebates on the PB specifically that made it the same price as if he ordered another 2.7L EB (which he has had in two F-150s so far and intended to just keep getting). So while rebates are variable, there isn't a guarantee that you even pay more for the PB.
Well, maybe in your neck of the woods but realistically the powerboost is an upcharge. About 3k last time I checked.
In almost every metric the PB beats the 5.0, especially when taken as a total ownership average (average overall fuel economy and all that, not just focusing on micro-differences based on variables mentioned earlier). The only place the 5.0 beats it is you are likely to get a higher payload on a like-for-like F-150 between a 5.0 and PB. But if you are doing something that is pushing payload limits with the F-150 anyway, you should get the 3.5L, not the 5.0. Because in that case you are likely towing and the 3.5L is just going to be better at towing in nearly every scenario.
Yes, that is fairly accurate. That said, I tow just fine with my 5.0 as well...and the question was is it worth it.
I mean from my personal perspective...to call the powerboost a "hybrid" is to deny all other hybrids of their much higher levels of efficiency.
I know it's just my opinion, but the only reason the 5.0 has reason to exist is for those that just want the sound or for that very narrow cross section of people that frequently tow 3000-5000lbs where the 5.0 is still plenty of engine for the tow, but will often get better fuel mileage than almost any other engine. If you are doing that basically every day or at least most weekends, I can see that fuel savings adding up big time. But otherwise, the 5.0 is only interesting where it started, in a Mustang.
I can't speak to other's reasoning for the engine types or the options they choose to purchase.
What I wanted was a truck that I can depend on and that I didn't cringe at every time I started it up.
I had more than my fair share of ecoboost engines failing that I pretty much swore off of them.
I would have much more preferred to see the powerboost paired with a 5.0...but thats me.
I found the 5.0 to be a pretty solid engine that gives me the power, fuel mileage and dependability that I require.
I have closely watched and read almost all the threads involving the Powerboost and the most recurring concerns are the much lower than anticipated mileage.
I don't know that I have read anywhere from owners that they are getting 29mpg in the city and if you are thats great!!
I do mostly highway mileage and I average 23-24mpg with my 5.0 which I think is pretty good.
But the PB has significantly more power, can continue to run A/C even when the engine is off, and in general is just such a smooth powertrain.
Okay, but this "significantly more power" comes from the 3.5 ecoboost engine...not from the powerboost.
The generator comparison is laughable. There are not many 7kW+ Inverter generators out there for under $1k. A quick check and I found one on sale right at the $1k mark, but now you have an 118lb generator you have to fuel and maintain and store. Or it can just be part of the truck, usable at home or work or on the road.
Its like I said...if the person requires portable power it may be worth it so this isn't really an argument.
I installed a 26kwh 200amp whole home generac at my new build.
If i'm away it texts me if it starts up and sends me diagnostic info so I know i'm protected.
With the rebates Ford has on the PB, the cost isn't even much of a concern. A friend of mine just got his '23 PowerBoost, wasn't even looking to get it, but Ford had rebates on the PB specifically that made it the same price as if he ordered another 2.7L EB (which he has had in two F-150s so far and intended to just keep getting). So while rebates are variable, there isn't a guarantee that you even pay more for the PB.
Well, maybe in your neck of the woods but realistically the powerboost is an upcharge. About 3k last time I checked.
In almost every metric the PB beats the 5.0, especially when taken as a total ownership average (average overall fuel economy and all that, not just focusing on micro-differences based on variables mentioned earlier). The only place the 5.0 beats it is you are likely to get a higher payload on a like-for-like F-150 between a 5.0 and PB. But if you are doing something that is pushing payload limits with the F-150 anyway, you should get the 3.5L, not the 5.0. Because in that case you are likely towing and the 3.5L is just going to be better at towing in nearly every scenario.
Yes, that is fairly accurate. That said, I tow just fine with my 5.0 as well...and the question was is it worth it.
I mean from my personal perspective...to call the powerboost a "hybrid" is to deny all other hybrids of their much higher levels of efficiency.
I know it's just my opinion, but the only reason the 5.0 has reason to exist is for those that just want the sound or for that very narrow cross section of people that frequently tow 3000-5000lbs where the 5.0 is still plenty of engine for the tow, but will often get better fuel mileage than almost any other engine. If you are doing that basically every day or at least most weekends, I can see that fuel savings adding up big time. But otherwise, the 5.0 is only interesting where it started, in a Mustang.
I can't speak to other's reasoning for the engine types or the options they choose to purchase.
What I wanted was a truck that I can depend on and that I didn't cringe at every time I started it up.
I had more than my fair share of ecoboost engines failing that I pretty much swore off of them.
I would have much more preferred to see the powerboost paired with a 5.0...but thats me.
I found the 5.0 to be a pretty solid engine that gives me the power, fuel mileage and dependability that I require.









