Unless we disagree, then you're a pompous t*** and I have a Masters in HID (and everything else really - from Harvard, Yale, and MIT) and you're stupid and ill tell you why.

Lol

 

^^

Dont get me wrong I agree that people who dont aim them properly after the install are lazy douche bags. I hate seeing them bright, blinding lights in my direction. But if they take the time to aim them, and check their output direction, aint no problems.

To me it just "sounds like" some people dont like when others only buy (cheap) hids and not the proper (expense) housing. Kinda like when some people rag on others for only having a muffler and not a cat back.

 

What are the bulb numbers for a 2013 F-150 FX4 with Projector OEM lights. Also what are the foglight bulb?

 

The hid bulbs are type D3S. HIDconcept.com sells replacement bulbs from the stock 4300k color to 8k color. The fog bulbs should be the same as previous year f150s. Should be a 9140/9145 bulb

 

That's correct.

Retrofitsource has everything also.

 

You guys should also checkout hidnation.com They have very reasonable prices!

 

It doesn't work that way! Even if you "aim" your housings after installing an HID bulb in a halogen housing, you still get light scatter and poor lighting beam.

Halogen bulbs have the filament in a different position/orientation than an HID bulb. Just because the base is compatible doesn't mean that it "fits". For this reason, you get the light scatter and poor beam.

You may be stoked that you've got your icy-white 8000k HID bulbs in there, but no matter what you do you're still pissing other drivers off.

 

True

If you don't believe it, do yourself and, well, everyone else a favor and head over to HIDPlanet forum and read their articles for yourself.

HIDs in reflector housings are a cosmetic upgrade, nothing more. Their output is worse than stock, the scattered light is an annoyance, and no matter what your justification is, they still aren't "better" than stock.

Aiming them down just makes it brighter in front of you, it still looks like high beams to oncoming drivers.

Edit:

Since I know noobs around here absolutely neglect the search button - or any form of self help, I'll get the links for you:

Main forum:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/forum.php?


Informative articles page: (most useful)
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/foru...ative-Articles


HID bulb info (great read):
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...bout-HID-bulbs


The irrefutable truth about PnP kits: (proof)
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...uths-and-Myths


And finally, the noobs guide to HID: (everything you may want to know)
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...b-Crash-Course


Use this as your bible - get the facts right, know your sh*t before arguing.

For the love of god, figure out how to search, too. You're not THAT helpless.


Now, after you've educated yourself about it, from a source that isn't rumor, opinion, or without merrit, you'll better understand the following:

A. Why I (and countless others) CHOOSE projection, and OEM quality components over garbage PnP kits. You pay for what you get.

B. Why the "HID bulb in reflector housings" is so frequently shunned.

C. Quality counts, method of delivery counts, color counts, and most of all, safety counts.

-once you know what you're talking about, you can better appreciate the reason behind such an argument. You'll get that those "pretty" 8000k or higher bulbs are effing GARBAGE (there's a reason that NO OEM manufacturer makes this temperature) and why we keep saying that it's annoying.

 

That last post was real informing BTW, thanks again Zipper. I do have a question about this. I went with 55Ws, and im keeping them that way, not changing them. I go onto ebay, and see 75W HIDs, and even 100W HIDs. If anyone has gotten either of those... How do they compare to the 55Ws? Just curious, not going to change mine. Already changed the bulb to a 5000k yesterday...

 

The 75w and 100w are just super sized, over powered ballasts. The bulbs can handle it, but at the expense of a shorter life. Much shorter life.

The heat generated using those wattage would easily burn a projector, if not the shroud and possibly damage the housing.

So although the 75/100w will produce a brighter output - your bulbs won't last very long - and you run a good risk of causing damage to the HLs.

I too have 55w, Sylvania SVS bulbs and Morimoto ballasts, and compared to a 35w of equal kelvin, it's just a bit brighter and washed color. Going higher would have more of an effect like this.