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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 10:47 PM
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Is that green box your sprinkler system ? If so, can you hear the pump in the basement ?
Old Sep 28, 2019 | 11:13 PM
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Man that thing looks hairy in that pic...has a little EXTRA anyway lol. So that's the one with bulging roots ?

Looks more like a willow in that pic.
I imagine that it might have something to do with the fact that it only gets pruned and watered on my side.Yes, this is the root problem tree.

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Is that green box your sprinkler system ? If so, can you hear the pump in the basement ?
Yep, that's my sprinkler controller. All that does is send 24 VAC to open the valves. The city keeps the pressure at about 70 PSI (+/- 10 PSI), so we don't need pumps. When it gets around 80 PSI, I get water hammer. So I need to either put a regulator on it, or most likely I will put an arrestor on it. There is some kind of formula to figure out what size you need.... I need to find that formula, LOL.
Old Sep 28, 2019 | 11:37 PM
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White, your basement isn't looking like a basement anymore. For the most part anyway....Nice job man, - for a nerd lol
Yep, you've got him pegged. He'll probably finally grab a few hours of sleep before starting his next project by morning. He might even take on that crater in his driveway?

Science class memories: About the trees. IIRC, a true poplar is a hearty, long living tree but the hybrids like the Lombardy, Tulip, Balsam, etc. are all live fast, die young trees. Some cities, Boston for example, have ordinances against planting them in the city because of the damage they can do and they don't live long enough to be considered to have any value. They have a reputation for having a "the next property owners problem," in exchange for their fast growth. Also IIRC the Willow, Aspen, Poplar, Cottonwood and others are all from the same genus with the same root sucker and potential property damage problems.

A bit of trivia; The largest living organism on earth is Pando, a Quaking Aspen tree stand in Utah. They don't know the age of the stand but estimate it in the thousands of years and it covers more than 100 acres. Googled this:

CURWOOD: Quick quiz. Now what’s the largest living organism on Earth? No, it’s not a blue whale. It’s a tree, a Quaking Aspen. That's right, a single Quaking Aspen in Utah covers 106 acres of land and is estimated to weigh more than 6,000 metric tonnes.

Aspen trees flourish in much of North America, but in the western US a genetic adaptation allows them to propagate not by seed, but by cloning. By some estimations the Aspen grove known as Pando, that's Latin for I spread, could be shoots from a clone as much as 80,000 years old.

That means it started sprouting when modern humans were migrating out of Africa. But the world’s largest organism is now under threat. Here to explain why are Paul Rogers, Director of the Western Aspen Alliance at Utah State University and Karen Mock, Professor of Conservation Genetics and Molecular Ecology at USU. . . .
Old Sep 29, 2019 | 11:59 AM
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I imagine that it might have something to do with the fact that it only gets pruned and watered on my side.Yes, this is the root problem tree.



Yep, that's my sprinkler controller. All that does is send 24 VAC to open the valves. The city keeps the pressure at about 70 PSI (+/- 10 PSI), so we don't need pumps. When it gets around 80 PSI, I get water hammer. So I need to either put a regulator on it, or most likely I will put an arrestor on it. There is some kind of formula to figure out what size you need.... I need to find that formula, LOL.

I use this for pruning, it handles up to 3/4" and cuts thru the big like butter. Over 3/4" it will chew them off, so I reach for loppers over 3/4. Unfortunately Dewalt discontinued the 40V version, actually I believe they discontinued a lot of their 40 volt out door stuff. You can still get the 20V. That 40V will give your shoulders a workout...it's a little heavy but mannn, once charged it will last all day...

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Looks like your lawn was recently sodded. I was thinkin perhaps you can cut and roll the sod back do what you want with the roots, - either use fill dirt around them OR if your really not looking to hurt them (much) , use a sawzall with a good pruning blade (GreenLee or Milwaukee) and just cut the tops down. I use the sawzall to cut below grade and in the dirt, dirt won't dull a good pruning blade. Dirt will dull a chainsaw chain (unless your using carbide), but it won't dull a good pruning blade...completely different. I've been using the same pruning blade for years and it still up 6", not that I have to that anymore. I use the PorterCable Tiger Saw for the dirty work., think it's only 9.6 amps.

BTW- they make a cheap handtool to cut and lift sod. If your not aware.
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Yea I had a sprinkler company install mine in the front yard, I added a couple stations in the back. City water, it hammers when it comes on until the lines are charged, then quiets down, you still hear it though. Mine was in the garage.

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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 12:10 PM
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Yep, you've got him pegged. He'll probably finally grab a few hours of sleep before starting his next project by morning. He might even take on that crater in his driveway?

Science class memories: About the trees. IIRC, a true poplar is a hearty, long living tree but the hybrids like the Lombardy, Tulip, Balsam, etc. are all live fast, die young trees. Some cities, Boston for example, have ordinances against planting them in the city because of the damage they can do and they don't live long enough to be considered to have any value. They have a reputation for having a "the next property owners problem," in exchange for their fast growth. Also IIRC the Willow, Aspen, Poplar, Cottonwood and others are all from the same genus with the same root sucker and potential property damage problems.

A bit of trivia; The largest living organism on earth is Pando, a Quaking Aspen tree stand in Utah. They don't know the age of the stand but estimate it in the thousands of years and it covers more than 100 acres. Googled this:

CURWOOD: Quick quiz. Now what’s the largest living organism on Earth? No, it’s not a blue whale. It’s a tree, a Quaking Aspen. That's right, a single Quaking Aspen in Utah covers 106 acres of land and is estimated to weigh more than 6,000 metric tonnes.

Aspen trees flourish in much of North America, but in the western US a genetic adaptation allows them to propagate not by seed, but by cloning. By some estimations the Aspen grove known as Pando, that's Latin for I spread, could be shoots from a clone as much as 80,000 years old.

That means it started sprouting when modern humans were migrating out of Africa. But the world’s largest organism is now under threat. Here to explain why are Paul Rogers, Director of the Western Aspen Alliance at Utah State University and Karen Mock, Professor of Conservation Genetics and Molecular Ecology at USU. . . .
How did you retain all that info from Science class lol. Nah, I guess most everyone heard of those huge Aspens. The Blue whale thing...that's new, it will stick for sure.
Old Sep 29, 2019 | 02:56 PM
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How did you retain all that info from Science class lol. Nah, I guess most everyone heard of those huge Aspens. The Blue whale thing...that's new, it will stick for sure.
Lol. Long story but it involved natural resource economics classes at a school of forestry. I picked up a lot of peripheral information and trivia. Did have to look this up though because I though the tree was in Colorado instead of Utah.
Old Sep 29, 2019 | 03:42 PM
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Lol. Long story but it involved natural resource economics classes at a school of forestry. I picked up a lot of peripheral information and trivia. Did have to look this up though because I though the tree was in Colorado instead of Utah.
Cali has some pretty big red woods, some of those are over 1500 years old if I remember right.
Old Sep 29, 2019 | 03:47 PM
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I have had enough of the stupid crap being posted and responded to on this site. Not this thread. The overall F6 site. It's getting to be one of the Facebook sites. I have to agree with the prior posts. Why answer a question if no one wants to do it. Just throw parts at something to see IF that cures it then complain when it doesn't fix the problem.

I'm going to be like most of you. Just post if the situation requires a specific response, or leave it alone and just bite my lip. So, just basically, I too have had enough.

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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 04:22 PM
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I have had enough of the stupid crap being posted and responded to on this site. Not this thread. The overall F6 site. It's getting to be one of the Facebook sites. I have to agree with the prior posts. Why answer a question if no one wants to do it. Just throw parts at something to see IF that cures it then complain when it doesn't fix the problem.

I'm going to be like most of you. Just post if the situation requires a specific response, or leave it alone and just bite my lip. So, just basically, I too have had enough.
I typed out a response to that guy and then deleted it, no need to beat a dead horse. Why do all that extra work and gamble on internal damage when the compression test would've told him that... so much wasted time, money, and lack of troubleshooting steps followed
Old Sep 29, 2019 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Looks like your lawn was recently sodded.

BTW- they make a cheap handtool to cut and lift sod. If your not aware.
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Yea I had a sprinkler company install mine in the front yard, I added a couple stations in the back. City water, it hammers when it comes on until the lines are charged, then quiets down, you still hear it though. Mine was in the garage.
It was sodded in 1998. It's been very well cared for, so I've continued to try and baby it. I'll have to look for one of those hand tools to do sod. I've had to replace a couple sprinklers, and I hate cutting it up with a shovel, LOL. Although it does heal pretty quickly....


Originally Posted by akdoggie
I have had enough of the stupid crap being posted and responded to on this site. Not this thread. The overall F6 site. It's getting to be one of the Facebook sites. I have to agree with the prior posts. Why answer a question if no one wants to do it. Just throw parts at something to see IF that cures it then complain when it doesn't fix the problem.

I'm going to be like most of you. Just post if the situation requires a specific response, or leave it alone and just bite my lip. So, just basically, I too have had enough.
Yep.... when you try to help it gets ignored, or they try and tell you that they know better. I love this guy that starts a new thread every day about the timing chain.



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