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Best way is to get yer tuning adjusted by PHP.
Tuning is complex - cavalierly adjusting settings without knowing the whole calibration's interactions is just not recommended.
MGD
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From: Pearland, TX
Mine has a little bit of a rough idle so I'm kinda nervous to load in my custom tune just yet. MGD do you think maybe it's the CAI causing this? It wasn't doing this before I returned the truck to stock from my canned tune after I cleaned my MAF sensor and throttle body and threw a p061f code
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I have my 87 custom tune by PHP . And I think after driving my truck every day where ever I go on the 87 custom tune I can definitely tell a difference in performance with the 93 octane tune. You can't just say butt-dyno cause obviously I know how my truck drives. For example let's say you have a performance tune you know exact how your truck drives and if some how your programmer messed up and went back to stock program. You can't tell me you wouldn't get the difference.
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I have my 87 custom tune by PHP . And I think after driving my truck every day where ever I go on the 87 custom tune I can definitely tell a difference in performance with the 93 octane tune. You can't just say butt-dyno cause obviously I know how my truck drives. For example let's say you have a performance tune you know exact how your truck drives and if some how your programmer messed up and went back to stock program. You can't tell me you wouldn't get the difference.
1. Ye need to define what you perceive the difference to be. Is it part-throttle response? Off-the-line? WOT? Shifting?
2. You need to realize we are talking aboot 6 points of octane, and a timing curve to match. You would expect to see a bit more 'dig'. And a true 'perf' tune can take the motor far above the stock rev limit, where the HP peak actually lives. That's one reason of many why even 87 custom rocks compared to stock.
3. If it's shifting that is better canned, then you should have reported that fact to PHP long ago so they could have corrected it. Shifting algorithm refinement may takes a couple/few iterations to acheive the user's specific preferences.
4. You are not datalogging, so PHP very much depends upon user feedback and iterative re-tuning to meet yer expectations. If you never bothered, then YOU own this problem. Every truck is different and responds to custom tuning in different ways, as there are many, many different strategy codes.
5. The custom tune will be far more refined than the non-strategy-matched generic canned tunes. Again - if they don;t appear to b, then you should have reported it. and again - you now OWN it.
6. Call PHP to discuss in detail - but be prepared to cough up some dinero if it's been a while. Them folks gotta eat, lol.
7. I've NEVER had a canned 91-93 octane tune outperform a lower octane fully-datalogged, dialed-in custom tune (Caveat: Tuning Platform = SCT)
Y'know what? I don't think yer listening - so go ahead and do what you want, as it appears yer mind's made up and you really do believe that you know better than PHP's lead wizard, Bill Cohron.
MGD out.
Last edited by MGD; Mar 15, 2015 at 05:22 PM.
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Couple things:
1. Ye need to define what you perceive the difference to be. Is it part-throttle response? Off-the-line? WOT? Shifting?
2. You need to realize we are talking aboot 6 points of octane, and a timing curve to match. You would expect to see a bit more 'dig'. And a true 'perf' tune can take the motor far above the stock rev limit, where the HP peak actually lives. That's one reason of many why even 87 custom rocks compared to stock.
3. If it's shifting that is better canned, then you should have reported that fact to PHP long ago so they could have corrected it. Shifting algorithm refinement may takes a couple/few iterations to acheive the user's specific preferences.
4. You are not datalogging, so PHP very much depends upon user feedback and iterative re-tuning to meet yer expectations. If you never bothered, then YOU own this problem. Every truck is different and responds to custom tuning in different ways, as there are many, many different strategy codes.
5. The custom tune will be far more refined than the non-strategy-matched generic canned tunes. Again - if they don;t appear to b, then you should have reported it. and again - you now OWN it.
6. Call PHP to discuss in detail - but be prepared to cough up some dinero if it's been a while. Them folks gotta eat, lol.
7. I've NEVER had a canned 91-93 octane tune outperform a lower octane fully-datalogged, dialed-in custom tune (Caveat: Tuning Platform = SCT)
Y'know what? I don't think yer listening - so go ahead and do what you want, as it appears yer mind's made up and you really do believe that you know better than PHP's lead wizard, Bill Cohron.
MGD out.
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MGD has always steered me in the right direction. He helped me alot when I first came on here and has yet to give me any bad info. Thanks man I appreciate the help. I am just nervous about putting the tune in with the way she's idling right now and I found quite a bit of carbon on the outside of the pipe to the inlet of the muffler think I may have an exhaust leak
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does anyone know how to change how fast it downshifts like from 2nd to first? i now with the 87 performance tune barley press the gas pedal down and it downshifts and jumps the truck. i don't like that at all, it downshifts way to soon.
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Also let's post 0-60 times on here. I got 7.47 on the canned 87 tow tune with me changing the settings. Just this morning with the 87 performance tune that PHP just did for me I got 7.67. Now I know I'm supposed to be getting a better time on the performance than the tow tune so what's up with that? Maybe it's me who knows. I'm also driving an 04 FX4 supercab that's weighs 7200 pounds.
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Also let's post 0-60 times on here. I got 7.47 on the canned 87 tow tune with me changing the settings. Just this morning with the 87 performance tune that PHP just did for me I got 7.67. Now I know I'm supposed to be getting a better time on the performance than the tow tune so what's up with that? Maybe it's me who knows. I'm also driving an 04 FX4 supercab that's weighs 7200 pounds.
BTW - visit a few online ET calculators - you'll quickly discover that a truck with the mass, huge driveline losses rolling resistance and low power levels these possess ( even with a canned tuner) will NEVER get into the 7's, Or even the 8's for the most part. And those reporting gettin' into the 6's? Comical.
Oh yeah- we already have a specific place to post time slips. lol
MGD