Im not a chemest and never played one on tv but what little knowledge i have tells me that ethenol does not contain alcohol but IS alcohol.and any other stuff in there is blended ethenol or contaminated ethenol.Corect me if im wrong

 

LMFAO!!!!!

With proper experimentation results will NOT vary. That's the bedrock of science. If the results vary between experiments, either the method or the premise is invalid.

BTW, Bubbabud, yep, ethanol IS alcohol.

 

Real world results will always vary my friend...gas quality, location, wear, temperature, time, to name a few are all variances that are out of anyones control in real world scenarios... Lab results should not vary that is correct, in a controlled experiment/environment you can have similar results...i'm not denying that AT ALL!..... Even if I did my experiments with acetone in a lab I could not account for every single variable being consistent when it came to real world trials.

 

This.

 

And if you cannot somehow account for the above, the experiment is worthless and isn't even really an experiment, you're just screwing around to see what happens. In a controlled environment with duplicate inputs if you don't have duplicate results, the environment wasn't controlled.

Tell that to anyone who works in a lab. I hope they're not drinking anything at the time, because if they are, you're wearing it.

 

truer words have never been spoken

 

They are true..... But it's still a poor excuse to render trying anything completely pointless.. Which is my argument... Im not hear to argue what lab results will yield... I don't have a lab and I'm going to venture a guess that non of you guys have one either.... So get real.... It's the f150 forum not the chemistry forum... Keep learning, and keep trying new things is all I advocate..... If I listened to everybody who basically said (you can't do that) then I would not have accomplished anything in life... Hell I don't even think I coulda left the house. So have fun waiting for everybody else trying to figure things out for you... Oh yeah please show me the lab results debunking acetone in gasoline....and don't reply with stifling remarks that don't further this discussion into some conclusive end result.

 

Lab results debunking acetone in gasoline? Mythbusters science isn't great, but they were pretty thorough on this one.

The flash point of gasoline is -45 deg C. The flash point of acetone is -20 deg C. In other words gasoline vapors form at a much lower temp that acetone vapors, completely rendering the statement about acetone aiding the vaporization of gasoline moot. How is adding a liquid that is more difficult to vaporize to gasoline going to improve the combustion process? Not only that, but the addition amounts are so small that they are almost homeopathic.

 

After reading this entire thread, including the posted evidence links, I have come to a conclusion!

Ford designed my truck to run a specific way with specific type of fuel. (I have the flex fuel 5.4l) Since FORD is the company I rely on to fix anything I break, and my truck still has some warrany remaining...

(Hand to heart, hat off) I, MoDy150, will not place any additives into my fuel tank.

Thanks for the banter and the evidence on both sides. I very much appreciate this forum to aid me in MY decisions.

 

Ok.... I'm going to try to make some clarifications. I'm not a chemist but I do work closely with many chemcial manufacturers on a daily basis.

Where to start....

Well, products like SeaFoam contain small amounts of isopropyl alcohol (10-20% depending on manufacturer) and are mainly SUPER viscous lubrication oils (Pale oil, in SeaFoam's case). I've got an MSDS for SeaFoam if anyone wants it... I can email it to them, its too large to upload. You can also get it here.

Also, acetone is not an alcohol. It belongs to the "ketone" family. It contains no alcohol. Ketones have elemental bonds with two carbon molecules whereas alcohols have one singular carbon bond. I've also attached an MSDS for Acetone.

Again, I'm not a chemist but there's been A LOT of inaccurate information passed in this thread.