Push button start
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Thinking about the concept of push-button start for the F-150, I've come to the conclusion it's a cheap way for Ford and other car companies to make money. Especially bundling it with other expensive options. Push-button start should be no more expensive or difficult to offer than a normal key start. The procedure is simple, use a push-button instead of the key switch. Both are simple switches. The key provides the security in one case and computer programming and the key fob the security in the case of push-button starting.
Furthermore, any vehicle could be retrofitted to allow push-button start. Just put an appropriate switch somewhere on the dash and wire it in parallel with the key switch. That wouldn't be very secure since anyone could start the thing, but easily done. It could also be done by interrupting the data stream from the remote starting the vehicle.
But both push-button and remote start are features that cost little to implement and can be bundled with other high-end features to make a large profit for automakers. Both likely cost less than $25.00 to implement. An updated key fob with a remote start button on it might cost an extra dollar or two. Neither uses any expensive components.
Any comments? Agree or disagree. Try not to get personal.
Furthermore, any vehicle could be retrofitted to allow push-button start. Just put an appropriate switch somewhere on the dash and wire it in parallel with the key switch. That wouldn't be very secure since anyone could start the thing, but easily done. It could also be done by interrupting the data stream from the remote starting the vehicle.
But both push-button and remote start are features that cost little to implement and can be bundled with other high-end features to make a large profit for automakers. Both likely cost less than $25.00 to implement. An updated key fob with a remote start button on it might cost an extra dollar or two. Neither uses any expensive components.
Any comments? Agree or disagree. Try not to get personal.
Back in the days of pumping the gas before starting, push button start is way better, but not today.
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While keyless start is wayyy better I think Ford really screwed the pooch with the keyed ignition. On the new f150 you actually have to turn your head and look at the steering column for the little key hole, which sits flush with the column.
All of my older vehicles have a lock cylinder that sticks out of the column, therefore you don’t need to see where the key goes, you can actually just feel for it and start the vehicle. Ford really took a step back with their key, it reminds me of the keys from a 2004 Volkswagen Passat.
So so while I’m not at all against the old key, I will say with the f150, keyless is the hands down (no pun intended) better option.
All of my older vehicles have a lock cylinder that sticks out of the column, therefore you don’t need to see where the key goes, you can actually just feel for it and start the vehicle. Ford really took a step back with their key, it reminds me of the keys from a 2004 Volkswagen Passat.
So so while I’m not at all against the old key, I will say with the f150, keyless is the hands down (no pun intended) better option.
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Not singling out the push button start. But talking about it because it's not an option. It's part of a package. And I fail to see any reason not to wonder about it and try to understand it.
And also because push-button start is conceptually simple. All vehicles basically have push-button start. It's called a key. Leave the key in the ignition and it's just a switch. Exactly like a push button switch. Twist or push.
And also because push-button start is conceptually simple. All vehicles basically have push-button start. It's called a key. Leave the key in the ignition and it's just a switch. Exactly like a push button switch. Twist or push.
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Except Ram .....is Fiat, and their quality leaves a lot a awful lot to be desired . Mercedes tried with Chrysler to improve quality snd just plain failed and then they bailed.
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P.ease be honest ...so I can understand.
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Who cares? Having 20 trim levels doesn't benefit anyone. I'd be happy if Ford offered NO LUXURY OPTIONS - every vehicle gets ALL the latest tech, which drives the cost of all that tech down. The only options would be things like paint, interior colors, & wheel style (which wouldn't change the price much); engine, trans, & 4WD.
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