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Old May 20, 2021 | 01:57 PM
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They estimate it can power the average home for about three days. That's going to meet the needs of what most people want out of a generator.

Towing, yeah, that's going to be an issue. This isn't for you, then. But believe it or not, an awful lot of truck owners don't tow long distances. Oh, and I managed to literally haul my finished basement home in a 5.5' bed, so that can be kind of useful too.
Yeah, if I need more than my 5.5' bed, it would have to be a real critical need. In that case, which has yet to come up in years of F-150 ownership, I would either use a cargo trailer or rent a Home Depot 8' REAL bed truck for $50 and call it a day. The difference between 5.5' and 6.5' is overblown in my experience, but you sure get to feel it every time you park. Obviously needs vary, and there are those where 6.5' may be a must, but I don't blame Ford at all for not making it a launch day priority.

I am glad you mentioned the powering the house. It's an idea for emergency need. I know it may surprise many, and I saw jokes about "Oh how are you going to charge your Tesla without power!" during the Texas blackout, as if gas stations don't use electricity to run the pumps. Everything we rely on these days needs power in one form or another. The F-150 Lightning gives you an extra emergency option, nothing in Ford's presentation said you can't have an F-150 Lightning, but also a normal standby generator if you live in an area with frequent outages, and any attempt to have both will result in Ford breaking down your door and kidnapping your first born. I am all for constructive discussion, but I swear some people just want to hate something so bad they will ignore logic.
Old May 20, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by antho
The tail lights look just as bad in my opinion. Seems like a ugly way to redesign a tail light in the 2015-2020 bedside. Why not work with the 2021 bedside?


If the head lights and tail lights didn't have such a wide, opaque LED strip, they would look much better. Make those lenses clear and a bit thinner and the looks of the truck would drastically improve.
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So what exactly is this base $40K model like that will cost $32500 after tax credit? That's a full size 4wd crew cab pickup for less than a Chevy Bolt! Any way you look at it that's damn impressive, but I suspect it will be as rare as 2wd regular cab trucks on dealer lots. Still, just keeping the XLT price in line with a regular XLT is also impressive.

This thing obviously won't be for everybody but it's going to be very attractive to anybody considering an EV. That's assuming they can deliver it in less than a year.
Keep in mind the XLT price quoted of $52k doesn't include dest. charge, taxes, and likely the ext. 300 mile range. Add all that in an you will easily be over $50k out the door after your $7,500 rebate.
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15 1/2 inch screen is going to be standard on lariat and platinum, what's the standard on XL and XLT then?

Is it the left pic for the XLT and Lariat and Platinum on the right? I've only seen the pic on the right in one clip.


Haven't seen that one on the right, but it looks way better than the 15.5" tablet they glued to the dash. I just assumed the commercial and XLT would get the new 12" landscape screen in the '21s.
Old May 20, 2021 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by b-real
If the head lights and tail lights didn't have such a wide, opaque LED strip, they would look much better. Make those lenses clear and a bit thinner and the looks of the truck would drastically improve.
I wasn't crazy about the big, blunt, fake front grill but the lights don't look that bad. The whole truck looks a HULLUVA lot better than all of the other EV pickup choices.
Old May 20, 2021 | 03:00 PM
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Yeah only thing I don't see myself getting over is the vertical touchscreen. I don't like it in Tesla, and I don't like it in Mach E. It's form over function. The 2021 F-150 nailed the exact screen setup I want, huge for information but physical radio and HVAC controls underneath. The RAM giant touchscreen looks good, but once you realize half of it can be consumed by HVAC and Radio controls, it ends up having less usable surface area than the Ford Horizontal 12" screen.

So while it may look good, and I know people generally like it in the Mach E, I would much prefer just sticking to the 12" like the '21 got, or if you want to do 15", give me horizontal of that and leave me physical controls for the items I may use several times a day.
Old May 20, 2021 | 03:10 PM
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I apologize if I missed it, I went back 10+ pages.

But it seems that the Gen 14 forum has an in at Ford. Here is a pre-announcement press release. It has all the specs at the bottom.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thre...s-videos.3695/
Old May 20, 2021 | 03:45 PM
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An issue with the "electric car revolution", that no one really talks about, is the electrical capacity of the typical, American home. I read that if you want the fast charging system, for the Lightning, that also connects to back-feed your home, it requires 100 Amps. Typical family home has a 200A main panel and few will have an extra 100A of spare capacity. May be complete rhetoric but I've read stories that said the US residential power grid is not set-up to handle even 50% of our automobiles being full electric, without major upgrades.
Old May 20, 2021 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vulnox
Yeah, if I need more than my 5.5' bed, it would have to be a real critical need. In that case, which has yet to come up in years of F-150 ownership, I would either use a cargo trailer or rent a Home Depot 8' REAL bed truck for $50 and call it a day. The difference between 5.5' and 6.5' is overblown in my experience, but you sure get to feel it every time you park. Obviously needs vary, and there are those where 6.5' may be a must, but I don't blame Ford at all for not making it a launch day priority.

I am glad you mentioned the powering the house. It's an idea for emergency need. I know it may surprise many, and I saw jokes about "Oh how are you going to charge your Tesla without power!" during the Texas blackout, as if gas stations don't use electricity to run the pumps. Everything we rely on these days needs power in one form or another. The F-150 Lightning gives you an extra emergency option, nothing in Ford's presentation said you can't have an F-150 Lightning, but also a normal standby generator if you live in an area with frequent outages, and any attempt to have both will result in Ford breaking down your door and kidnapping your first born. I am all for constructive discussion, but I swear some people just want to hate something so bad they will ignore logic.
Right? I don't ever remember Ford saying, here is THE solution to all things truck!

It is simply another (potential..) great option in the F-series lineup. It's clearly not for everyone, but it brings a solid EV choice for those whose lifestyles/requirements it will fit into.

Other than some subjective ticky-tack things, it's a great first shot, and has set the bar high for the competition, especially on price.
Old May 20, 2021 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
I apologize if I missed it, I went back 10+ pages.

But it seems that the Gen 14 forum has an in at Ford. Here is a pre-announcement press release. It has all the specs at the bottom.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thre...s-videos.3695/
Most of the info was on Ford's site before the announcement... not sure how much earlier though.
Old May 20, 2021 | 04:00 PM
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Baring the price, I'd love to have one, I only drive about a thousand miles a year.

I think the goal of all these, Hummer, Lightning etc is to introduce EV to society before most cars move to EV. Clearly the Prius didn't make everyone want an EV.
Old May 20, 2021 | 04:23 PM
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Put my reservation deposit down today



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