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Old May 20, 2021 | 10:26 AM
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Am i the only one that thinks the Headlights and tail lights are hideous? Also weird that they did not update the shape of the headlight and tail lights to reflect the 2021 model. Looks like some Ebay specials.. Other than the lights, This thing is awesome but i wont be a buyer.
I agree. That is really the only thing I hate about it. I think the taillights look fine and the lightbar in the front is cool. Those headlights look like a Chinese knockoff from Ebay.
Old May 20, 2021 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker
I will be interested in seeing the regulations on things like this. These giant batteries flying down the road at 75 mph are already a hazmat situation waiting to happen. If people start putting batteries on/in their trailers too I can see problems down the line when the inevitable accidents occur.
There were 189,000 highway vehicle fires in 2019 alone (worldwide). Many of our F-150s have 36 gallon fuel tanks, which contains highly flammable substances, and some trucks have far larger tanks. While electrical fires are a serious issue, they require different methods to fight them which fire departments are getting better at. There is zero evidence that EVs are more dangerous in an accident than an ICE vehicle, and with the improvements in armor and battery "crumple" zones like Ford showed off for the F-150 Lightning, they are possibly even safer at this point in any situation outside of a complete front to end compression."According to a recent FEMA report, “from 2014 to 2016 an estimated 171,500 highway vehicle fires occurred in the United States, resulting in an annual average of 345 deaths; 1,300 injuries; and $1.1 billion in property loss. These highway vehicle fires accounted for 13 percent of fires responded to by fire departments across the nation.”

The report adds, “Approximately one in eight fires responded to by fire departments across the nation is a highway vehicle fire. This does not include the tens of thousands of fire department responses to highway vehicle accident sites.”

The fear of BEV fires is largely due to media coverage of them as it's a novelty, not because they do so at a higher rate than ICE vehicles on a per capita basis.
Old May 20, 2021 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker
I will be interested in seeing the regulations on things like this. These giant batteries flying down the road at 75 mph are already a hazmat situation waiting to happen. If people start putting batteries on/in their trailers too I can see problems down the line when the inevitable accidents occur.
Lithium batteries are already being towed and a lot of newer trailers are trending towards all electric service. I agree with the hazards 100%!!! But this is the only way I see EV towing longer distances in the near future. Unless this $4T infrastructure plan intends on wireless charging on roads and interstates.
Old May 20, 2021 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Chipsky
You'll use it.
Nope. Won't be buying a Lightning.
Old May 20, 2021 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by vulnox
There were 189,000 highway vehicle fires in 2019 alone (worldwide). Many of our F-150s have 36 gallon fuel tanks, which contains highly flammable substances, and some trucks have far larger tanks. While electrical fires are a serious issue, they require different methods to fight them which fire departments are getting better at. There is zero evidence that EVs are more dangerous in an accident than an ICE vehicle, and with the improvements in armor and battery "crumple" zones like Ford showed off for the F-150 Lightning, they are possibly even safer at this point in any situation outside of a complete front to end compression."According to a recent FEMA report, “from 2014 to 2016 an estimated 171,500 highway vehicle fires occurred in the United States, resulting in an annual average of 345 deaths; 1,300 injuries; and $1.1 billion in property loss. These highway vehicle fires accounted for 13 percent of fires responded to by fire departments across the nation.”

The report adds, “Approximately one in eight fires responded to by fire departments across the nation is a highway vehicle fire. This does not include the tens of thousands of fire department responses to highway vehicle accident sites.”

The fear of BEV fires is largely due to media coverage of them as it's a novelty, not because they do so at a higher rate than ICE vehicles on a per capita basis.
Any numbers on people strapping gas tanks to their trailer?
Old May 20, 2021 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker
Any numbers on people strapping gas tanks to their trailer?
I suspect someone has them, I am not the one making claims that trailer battery fires are somehow going to be a crisis. I am well aware of how many trailers contain fuel, either through Propane tanks on the front of campers which have definitely had issues in accidents, or race/toy hauler accidents where the gas cans for the race car/toys causes a fire. My issue isn't with arguing whether or not an EV battery pack can start a fire, it's the idea that this is somehow going to be a new phenomenon and we haven't been moving around liquid combustible fuel for decades and dealing with fires. I mean, the simple act of filling up your vehicle or a lawn mower runs a risk of fire at a higher chance than charging a Tesla. Spill some fuel on a hot exhaust and you can have a fire. EVs from front to back have fewer opportunities for incident than gas vehicles or tools. I have a battery powered mower/trimmer/blower, and I at no time miss dealing with gas cans or oil changes and everything else. I want the same improvement in daily life from an EV Truck, and Ford looks ready to deliver.
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Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker
Nope. Won't be buying a Lightning.
Unless you're a boomer... that day may come.
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Originally Posted by vulnox
I suspect someone has them, I am not the one making claims that trailer battery fires are somehow going to be a crisis. I am well aware of how many trailers contain fuel, either through Propane tanks on the front of campers which have definitely had issues in accidents, or race/toy hauler accidents where the gas cans for the race car/toys causes a fire. My issue isn't with arguing whether or not an EV battery pack can start a fire, it's the idea that this is somehow going to be a new phenomenon and we haven't been moving around liquid combustible fuel for decades and dealing with fires. I mean, the simple act of filling up your vehicle or a lawn mower runs a risk of fire at a higher chance than charging a Tesla. Spill some fuel on a hot exhaust and you can have a fire. EVs from front to back have fewer opportunities for incident than gas vehicles or tools. I have a battery powered mower/trimmer/blower, and I at no time miss dealing with gas cans or oil changes and everything else. I want the same improvement in daily life from an EV Truck, and Ford looks ready to deliver.
Well you quoted a bunch mumbo jumbo about "improvements in armor and battery "crumple" zones"". The use case our fellow poster discussed was strapping another battery to the trailer. Not sure how you "armor and crumple zone"
that.
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I really like it. Im about 40 miles from the lake where we haul the boat every weekend. This would work great. Even if range drops to 150miles when towing a boat that’s still plenty for me. Rest of the time I could probably commute on one charge for over a week. Really cool. Hate how tech heavy it is tho. All those lights and screens etc just using battery. Unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by Chipsky
Unless you're a boomer... that day may come.
Xer. And no it won't. There will be plenty of ICE vehicles available, trust me on this one.



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