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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 07:16 PM
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Keep the truck you have and buy a commuter car?
Normally when this question arises about "I commute a long way", it is not suggested to upgrade their truck but rather to get a cheap car.


You guys don't have a lot of room to complain about 19mpg being poor along with $2.60/gallon.

My 2016 actually averaged 20 on a recent trip, but 17 one way. At the destination I filled up before heading home. I get 15 around town.
Do you guys pay $100 to pump a half tank of gas or ~300 miles?



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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pghgs2010
Stock in that regard. No lift no bigger tires all mods are cosmetic.

It's a 16 with 75k miles thinking I'm a victim of valve cokeing. Poor gas mileage rough idle even when warm. It improves for about a week after a induction service. Dealer quoted $3200 to manually clean the valves.
The coking problem is supposed to be addressed with current spec motor oil. But I agree for your use and current market conditions it could be a good time to trade.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 07:56 PM
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The coking problem is supposed to be addressed with current spec motor oil. But I agree for your use and current market conditions it could be a good time to trade.
What's the current spec I'm still doing 5w30 Shell gas truck
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 08:24 PM
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The benefit of the Powerboost is in stop and go conditions. Not the highway. But you do get more power and torque, and cool things like a 7.2kW generator. If you like those benefits, go for the Powerboost. But don’t do it just for highway mileage savings.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 16IngotFX4
Keep the truck you have and buy a commuter car?
Normally when this question arises about "I commute a long way", it is not suggested to upgrade their truck but rather to get a cheap car.


You guys don't have a lot of room to complain about 19mpg being poor along with $2.60/gallon.

My 2016 actually averaged 20 on a recent trip, but 17 one way. At the destination I filled up before heading home. I get 15 around town.
Do you guys pay $100 to pump a half tank of gas or ~300 miles?
Good point. To the O.P., what is the goal here? Better towing...better mileage...just got the itch to get new?
Several years ago I got tired of my truck being my 'daily driver', so I bought a Nissan Maxima for my commuter car. Parked the truck, got to where I was only putting a couple thousand miles a year on it...using exclusively for "truck stuff". It IS the best thing to do if you can swing having another car.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldyGopher
If those are the two choices.....Powerboost.
Originally Posted by bajaman
Good point. To the O.P., what is the goal here? Better towing...better mileage...just got the itch to get new?
Several years ago I got tired of my truck being my 'daily driver', so I bought a Nissan Maxima for my commuter car. Parked the truck, got to where I was only putting a couple thousand miles a year on it...using exclusively for "truck stuff". It IS the best thing to do if you can swing having another car.
I guess the goal is better towing, payload and economy at least long enough for this used car price bubble to burst and get a beater. Right now in my area 20year old civics with 150k plus miles that need tires and brakes to pass inspection are over 6k I refuse to pay that. However if I get a new truck to get me through a few years I'll probably find a beater when beaters return to normal pricing
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pghgs2010
I guess the goal is better towing, payload and economy at least long enough for this used car price bubble to burst and get a beater. Right now in my area 20year old civics with 150k plus miles that need tires and brakes to pass inspection are over 6k I refuse to pay that. However if I get a new truck to get me through a few years I'll probably find a beater when beaters return to normal pricing
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Old Jun 4, 2021 | 07:57 AM
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You could make a case for either choice, pending many driver habits/preferences.

I would suggest you test drive both, and pick the one you enjoyed driving the most.
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Old Jun 4, 2021 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pghgs2010
What's the current spec I'm still doing 5w30 Shell gas truck
In 2018 the 2.7EB is spec'ed 5W-30 and Ford WSS-M2C946-B1. Quick search says Shell Gas Truck is 945 when 946 is specified but to the best of my knowledge 945 is 5W-20 and 946 is 5W-30 otherwise same thing. Shell Gas Truck comes in both viscosities so I blame Shell's lazy website maintainer. So, you should be OK.

However, if you have valve coking with one oil then change to something else because coking comes from oil vented through PCV from crankcase. Due to direct injection the intake valve doesn't get washed with the detergents in gasoline only the vented oil vapors.

GM has similar problems but has branded their fix as Dexos. Makes it easier to find. I can't tell whether Dexos 1 Gen 2 would be better, same, or worse than Dexos 2. Expect you will also find Ford WSS specs in fine print on the same Dexos bottle.
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Old Jun 4, 2021 | 12:03 PM
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PowerBoost over the diesel anyday. We have 2 PowerStrokes in our fleet and they average ~27mpg compared to the low 20's for the Ecoboost. From our calculations of diesel costing $0.30 more per gallon in my area, along with the more expensive maintenance (DEF, oil changes, fuel filters) it ends up being a wash cost wise. If you are someone who tows a trailer every weekend then the PowerStroke wins because the mpgs don't drop when towing nearly as bad as the Ecoboost, but if only towing occasionally the math still isn't there, and the Ecoboost (and PowerBoost) is much more fun to drive daily.
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