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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jprevat
A 285/65r18 fits stock size wheels no problem with barely any lift on the edges of the tread.
I’m sure it probably does, but my stock wheel is 7.5 and the book says I need a minimum 8.0 for the 285/65/18. I called Tire Rack about it and they said the shorter sidewall isn’t as flexible as the 285/70 or even 295/70, both of which will fit the 7.5. Guess that makes sense. I looked at a lot of brands and they all say 8.0.
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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shorerunner
I’m sure it probably does, but my stock wheel is 7.5 and the book says I need a minimum 8.0 for the 285/65/18. I called Tire Rack about it and they said the shorter sidewall isn’t as flexible as the 285/70 or even 295/70, both of which will fit the 7.5. Guess that makes sense. I looked at a lot of brands and they all say 8.0.
I ran a 33x12.50r18 on 12th gen fx4 wheel with no issue at all. You cam make your determination but the minimum wheel requirements are more of a suggestion than a rule.
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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jprevat
I ran a 33x12.50r18 on 12th gen fx4 wheel with no issue at all. You cam make your determination but the minimum wheel requirements are more of a suggestion than a rule.
Makes sense. I guess if you can find someone who will mount them. I’ve been reading that some places won’t mount it if it’s not recommended by the manufacturer. Maybe it’s just a warranty thing. I want it to be safe and look okay as well. I guess I could ask around at my local shops. Thanks
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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 09:36 PM
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I recently modified my stock 2015 XLT FX4 SuperCrew, with a 2.5" MotoFab front leveling kit. I did not do anything else to the factory suspension or shocks etc. My original factory tires were 275/55/20 (31.9" diameter). My new Gladiator Xcomp M/T tires are 33" diameter, so it's a one inch taller tire than factory. I've got around 36 psi in the new tires.

I noticed that I am having a very annoying bounce, when driving down the freeway - around 50+ mph. It does not feel like a tire balance "vibration", but more of a suspension bounce.

Has anyone had this issue before, or have any thoughts on what it might be?
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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 09:54 PM
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Has anyone had this issue before, or have any thoughts on what it might be?


Your truck's shocks are worn out. They were worn out at 15,000 miles.

Seriously. If the original dampers are still on the truck and all that was done to lift the front ride height was a Motofab spacer/puck... you should now purchase and install some good dampers (shock absorbers).

For right around $400 (or slightly less), you can buy from Stage3Motorsports (a forum sponsor), four Bilstein 5100 series dampers for your truck.

I can guarantee you that if you do this, then drive down that same stretch of highway/freeway, you will be astonished, and you will be very happy at the dramatic difference in ride and handling. The ride will become slightly more firm but never! I repeat, never! harsh... and the nose-dive under braking, the body roll when cornering and the axle hop when accelerating over rougher road surface conditions will almost -almost- disappear.

The bouncing/cycling up-and-down that your truck is doing now is because your dampers no longer damp the truck's suspension springs' oscillations after dips, bumps, expansion joints, etc...
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Old Feb 4, 2024 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Apples
Your truck's shocks are worn out. They were worn out at 15,000 miles.

Seriously. If the original dampers are still on the truck and all that was done to lift the front ride height was a Motofab spacer/puck... you should now purchase and install some good dampers (shock absorbers).

For right around $400 (or slightly less), you can buy from Stage3Motorsports (a forum sponsor), four Bilstein 5100 series dampers for your truck.

I can guarantee you that if you do this, then drive down that same stretch of highway/freeway, you will be astonished, and you will be very happy at the dramatic difference in ride and handling. The ride will become slightly more firm but never! I repeat, never! harsh... and the nose-dive under braking, the body roll when cornering and the axle hop when accelerating over rougher road surface conditions will almost -almost- disappear.

The bouncing/cycling up-and-down that your truck is doing now is because your dampers no longer damp the truck's suspension springs' oscillations after dips, bumps, expansion joints, etc...
I definitely considered that was a possibility, but it was just weird that I never noticed it before the new tires & leveling kit. (I also thought that the stiffer FX4 shocks might last a bit longer than the non-optioned F150. I am at 50k miles, & I've driven it like an old Grandpa - never towing or going offroad, etc)

I had read on some other brand truck forums (Jeep & Tundra, if it matters), that some folks had to install longer front shocks after the leveling kit went on. Others posters on the forums claimed that it was a tire PSI problem.

I'm going to try re-installing my old factory wheels one more time, to rule out the new wheel/tire combo. If I still have the issue, then I will just replace the shocks I guess.

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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Apples
Your truck's shocks are worn out. They were worn out at 15,000 miles.

Seriously. If the original dampers are still on the truck and all that was done to lift the front ride height was a Motofab spacer/puck... you should now purchase and install some good dampers (shock absorbers).

For right around $400 (or slightly less), you can buy from Stage3Motorsports (a forum sponsor), four Bilstein 5100 series dampers for your truck.

I can guarantee you that if you do this, then drive down that same stretch of highway/freeway, you will be astonished, and you will be very happy at the dramatic difference in ride and handling. The ride will become slightly more firm but never! I repeat, never! harsh... and the nose-dive under braking, the body roll when cornering and the axle hop when accelerating over rougher road surface conditions will almost -almost- disappear.

The bouncing/cycling up-and-down that your truck is doing now is because your dampers no longer damp the truck's suspension springs' oscillations after dips, bumps, expansion joints, etc...
I was thinking about replacing my stock shocks with the Bilstein 5100 as well. Since my shocks have 118,000 miles on them (seriously, don’t yell at me because the truck still rides great), I figured I can solve the shock replacement and lift problem at the same time. I’ve heard you feel a lot more of every bump in the road. Is there another shock with lift capability that rides smoother than the Bilstein or are they really the best option?
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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 03:28 PM
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From what I have read the Billsteins are the best option for these trucks.
I have a set waiting to install on my 16 F-150 with only 24k miles on it.

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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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What Phil said.

The Bilstein 5100 may increase the tactile feel of the road in general but I ASSURE YOU they will NEVER feel harsh. Ever.

You have to step up in price to get even firmer shock valving w/ the Bilstein Series 6112 (front) and 5160 (rear)... even then while the ride quality becomes more firm it is never harsh. That's the magic of Bilstein for their pricepoint.

If you want good dampers (shocks) but want to retain a super-soft ride quality, then look to FOX shocks and how they spec the shocks for the Ford F150 Raptors. You will pay more.

I think that dollar-for-dollar, the Bilstien 5100 is the perfect shock for a street-driven F150. You will not regret their installation, and, as you've noted, you may get your front level accomplished at the same time by installing the spring saddle in any one of the four higher circlip locations beyond the bottom groove (that's for the stock ride height).

... the nose-dive under braking, the body roll when cornering and the axle hop when accelerating over rougher road surface conditions will almost -almost- disappear.


I stand by that description.

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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil48315
From what I have read the Billsteins are the best option for these trucks.
I have a set waiting to install on my 16 F-150 with only 24k miles on it.
Those are the 4600 are they not? They aren’t lift capable are they? I might go that route if I decide not to level my truck.
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