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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 09:53 PM
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If you leave the key in the car, can't ANYONE open the doors? And drive away? The truck doesn't know if it's you or Hillary Clinton that wants to drive it.
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Xsbank
If you leave the key in the car, can't ANYONE open the doors? And drive away? The truck doesn't know if it's you or Hillary Clinton that wants to drive it.
No the truck knows where the fob is. If its inside the truck the handle button will not work.
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 09:56 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Xsbank
If you leave the key in the car, can't ANYONE open the doors? And drive away? The truck doesn't know if it's you or Hillary Clinton that wants to drive it.
Not even my truck would trust Hillary, even if she had the fob.
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Old Oct 22, 2016 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by moguy1973
I'm fairly sure that unless you tell the truck you are there, e.g. touch the door handle or press the button on the door, the ECU isn't going to respond. When you touch the handle to open the doors or press the button to lock the doors it tells the truck to send a signal out to search for the fob to see if it's the right one to unlock or lock the doors. So leaving the fob in the truck isn't going to do anything to the truck's battery. Now leaving your fob in the truck in sub zero weather might drain down the fob battery but you can always use the keypad to open the doors and then put the fob in the hidden compartment since that's where the sensor is and unless the fob battery is dead the truck should work until you can get a new battery for the fob.
Thanks that's what I thought also. I have been leaving the fob in the hidden fob/learning slot. May move it to just under the sliding "door" in the center console just to be on the safer side.
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Old Oct 22, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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I've been thinking about the Intelligent Access fob, and I have a feeling it must be a 'dual' system. The first system is some type of RFID (like an EZPass) and works like moguy1973 described. The battery in the fob may only be used for the second, 'transmitter' portion of the fob that allows unlocking from a distance, remote start, etc... If this is the case, the truck should still start with the key in the truck but no batteries in the fob, but I haven't tested this myself. It would make sense, though, so you wouldn't get stranded by a dead battery in the fob, and would explain why Ford didn't bother with a physical 'backup' ignition.

On a side note, I came across this while trying to confirm my theory via the manual:
You must have your intelligent access
key in the vehicle in order to shift the
transmission out of position P.
Pretty handy if you leave your kids or pets in the truck with it running. They won't be able to accidentally (or on purpose) put it in gear (like I did when I was a kid and my uncle left me in the car to run in and grab smokes....).
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Old Oct 22, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LMychajluk
I've been thinking about the Intelligent Access fob, and I have a feeling it must be a 'dual' system. The first system is some type of RFID (like an EZPass) and works like moguy1973 described. The battery in the fob may only be used for the second, 'transmitter' portion of the fob that allows unlocking from a distance, remote start, etc... If this is the case, the truck should still start with the key in the truck but no batteries in the fob, but I haven't tested this myself. It would make sense, though, so you wouldn't get stranded by a dead battery in the fob, and would explain why Ford didn't bother with a physical 'backup' ignition.

On a side note, I came across this while trying to confirm my theory via the manual:


Pretty handy if you leave your kids or pets in the truck with it running. They won't be able to accidentally (or on purpose) put it in gear (like I did when I was a kid and my uncle left me in the car to run in and grab smokes....).
When the fob battery dies you place the fob in the cutout under the rubber mat inside the compartment under the heat/AC controls. That's your RFID mode
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by duck93
Not even my truck would trust Hillary, even if she had the fob.

I agree a million percent.
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RVerz
I agree a million percent.
Ha ha.. interesting that some of the WikiLeaks items talked about her separating out by list, the "Friends of Bill" when deciding who she would meet with (people who had donated money based on whether or not Bill would speak at their event).... the list was called "Friends of Bill".. or FOB.

ha ha...
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Firerunner
lol... I'm running version 3.8

I did change the settings with forscan to allow the radio to be turned on without the acc in the "on" position. I wouldn't think that would cause mine to power on with voice command and yours not, but who knows...it might
The radio in my truck works without the key on.
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