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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tsigwing
Pretty sweet find here. When I first got my truck I was looking at adding a sub (like every other vehicle I own) but didn't want to lose the under seat storage and tear it apart like all the other vehicles.


So if I want to add a behind the rear seat option on a 2015 CC, will the Kicker Hideaway work?


Then I need the Motorola WPT1212 Connector to attach to the existing hidden connector in the truck.


Need to wire as shown previously in this thread.


Need Forscan and a OBDii dongle to turn it on in the truck.


Am I missing anything?
I think you've covered it. I would verify that your truck has the harness first. Just pull the weatherstripping back on the rear drivers side and peek between the side trim and the body. You should see the harness. I'd also make sure you have room behind the seat. Mine is a super crew so I can't say if it fits in a crew cab. I've attached some pics.



This is the harness



Harness again



Sear folded up and locked. No interferance from the sub at all



There it is hiding behind the seat. Pic taken from under the rer seat with it folded up.



Back of rear seat folded down. Plenty of room for this little guy back there.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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How does that Hideaway do? Any shaking of the mirrors or seats?
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nardog
How does that Hideaway do? Any shaking of the mirrors or seats?
It will certainly shake the mirrors and you can feel it, but it's not overpowering. I think it rounds out the stock system nicely. It fills in the missing low end while blending in with the sound of the existing system instead of stepping all over it. I had thought about trying to squeeze in a 10" sealed enclosure and separate amp, but it was going to be really tight and probably would have involved cutting away some of the padding on the back of the cab so the sub would sit back far enough for the seat to fold up. That was back before I found this thread. Once I was sure that this was for real I decided to just see what a small powered sub would do. I'm glad I did. It's a 15-20 minute install from start to finish and no tearing your truck apart. I didn't even drill holes for the straps. I cut 2 slits in the back pad and 2 in the carpet just wide enough for the straps and fed them through those.

If you want huge booming bass you'll want something bigger though.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NCRedneck
It will certainly shake the mirrors and you can feel it, but it's not overpowering. I think it rounds out the stock system nicely. It fills in the missing low end while blending in with the sound of the existing system instead of stepping all over it. I had thought about trying to squeeze in a 10" sealed enclosure and separate amp, but it was going to be really tight and probably would have involved cutting away some of the padding on the back of the cab so the sub would sit back far enough for the seat to fold up. That was back before I found this thread. Once I was sure that this was for real I decided to just see what a small powered sub would do. I'm glad I did. It's a 15-20 minute install from start to finish and no tearing your truck apart. I didn't even drill holes for the straps. I cut 2 slits in the back pad and 2 in the carpet just wide enough for the straps and fed them through those.

If you want huge booming bass you'll want something bigger though.
Great feedback. This is what I'm looking for.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 07:15 PM
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How do we get this added to the tips and tricks sticky thread? https://www.f150forum.com/member.php?u=203565 and https://www.f150forum.com/member.php?u=240960 put some work into figuring this out.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 07:56 PM
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Can someone who has done it post the pin-out order for the wpt1212 harness?

Many thanks y'all!
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 08:45 PM
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Can someone who has done it post the pin-out order for the wpt1212 harness?

Many thanks y'all!
with the 1212 harness facing away and wires facing toward you it's this...top is where the clip is that secures it to the harness.

Top left black is positive. Orange red on the factory side

Top far right is ground or negative. Black violet on the factory side.

Bottom left is remote turn on. Brown on factory side.

Bottom 2nd to left is line level + violet on the factory side

Bottom 3rd to the right is line level - green on factory side

All other wires are not used. Tape them off.
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Many thanks! Appreciate it



Originally Posted by NCRedneck
with the 1212 harness facing away and wires facing toward you it's this...top is where the clip is that secures it to the harness.

Top left black is positive. Orange red on the factory side

Top far right is ground or negative. Black violet on the factory side.

Bottom left is remote turn on. Brown on factory side.

Bottom 2nd to left is line level + violet on the factory side

Bottom 3rd to the right is line level - green on factory side

All other wires are not used. Tape them off.
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Old Aug 26, 2016 | 07:49 PM
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Ok, I can vouch that these procedures work, and not just for a Kicker sub. I just used the procedures in this thread to install a Sound Ordnance B-8PT powered subwoofer, and it works great. No pulling wires through the firewall, no add-a-circuits, no splicing into factory speaker wires.

Bought the WPT-1212 pigtail on Amazon, which came with bare metal Motorcraft crimp connectors and heat-shrink tubing. I made up a harness to connect the WPT-1212 to the SO subwoofer, using the wiring instructions provided by NCRedneck in post #87. I used a Rockford Fosgate RFI2SW adapter to connect the "+" and "-" signal wires from the WPT-1212 pigtail to the SO's line level RCA inputs, and I wrapped the "shield" wire around the signal wires as far as it would go and taped everything up.

The factory harness has wires for only one amplifier/subwoofer input, but the SO B-8PT has two PCA inputs. I tried it using just one of the inputs and using both inputs and ended up soldering everything together using both inputs. But I don't think it makes a difference because the B-8PT is mono, despite having two inputs. If I was doing it over again I'd use a single RCA adapter since they are a little cheaper.

Oddly enough, the turn-on wire works for the SO subwoofer, even though the manual says it needs a 12V connection and I only measured 6 volts on that wire. I'm not complaining...

Set the ACM to "Auxiliary Subwoofer" and "Supercab 7 speaker with kicker audio" using Forscan and done!

Many thanks to you guys who figured this out for us. These procedures saved me hours of work and resulted in an OEM-like wiring job. Great work!

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Old Aug 26, 2016 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Theocoog
Ok, I can vouch that these procedures work, and not just for a Kicker sub. I just used the procedures in this thread to install a Sound Ordnance B-8PT powered subwoofer, and it works great. No pulling wires through the firewall, no add-a-circuits, no splicing into factory speaker wires.

Bought the WPT-1212 pigtail on Amazon, which came with bare metal Motorcraft crimp connectors and heat-shrink tubing. I made up a harness to connect the WPT-1212 to the SO subwoofer, using the wiring instructions provided by NCRedneck in post #87. I used a Rockford Fosgate RFI2SW adapter to connect the "+" and "-" signal wires from the WPT-1212 pigtail to the SO's line level RCA inputs, and I wrapped the "shield" wire around the signal wires as far as it would go and taped everything up.

The factory harness has wires for only one amplifier/subwoofer input, but the SO B-8PT has two PCA inputs. I tried it using just one of the inputs and using both inputs and ended up soldering everything together using both inputs. But I don't think it makes a difference because the B-8PT is mono, despite having two inputs. If I was doing it over again I'd use a single RCA adapter since they are a little cheaper.

Oddly enough, the turn-on wire works for the SO subwoofer, even though the manual says it needs a 12V connection and I only measured 6 volts on that wire. I'm not complaining...

Set the ACM to "Auxiliary Subwoofer" and "Supercab 7 speaker with kicker audio" using Forscan and done!

Many thanks to you guys who figured this out for us. These procedures saved me hours of work and resulted in an OEM-like wiring job. Great work!
This should work for any powered sub as long as you keep the power draw below 15 amps which will include just about any powered sub 200 watts or less. I chose the kicker because I knew it would fit behind the seat. No need to stick with that though as long as you know it fits if behind the sear is your objective. If you go over 200 watts you probably need to run a power lead.
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