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Acceleration
I have the 2.7 eb with3.73 gears, I find the acceleration to be phenomenal for such a heavy truck, it's an fx4. Scab. Especially with mid grade non ethonol. I'm looking for minor and relatively inexpensive ways to boost it. I can't seem to find any testing times recorded for my ratio, most are done with 3:55 gears. Anyone have ideas?
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Yeh, our new Fusion feels pretty fast as well with the 2.0L Ecoboost. It has the same torque peak and Hp peak as the 2015 2.7L Ecoboost.
In fact, I did some Hp and torque to weight calculations and found that 3 have nearly the same within 5 hp or 5 ft-lbs torque.
That being a 2016 Lariat Scab 4WD 2.7L Ecoboost at around 5100 lbs with 325 HP and 375 ft-lbs torque, our 2017 Fusion SE FWD 2.0L Ecoboost at 3800 lbs with 245 HP and 275 ft-lbs torque, and a 2013 F150 XLT 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost at 5770 lbs with 365 Hp and 420 ft-lbs torque.
All should be right around 6.5 sec 0 - 60mph and 15.0 sec to the 1/4 mile looking at Motor Trend test times. Gearing may change that by a tenth second or so. Just a few tenths slower than my '16 F150 5.0L Screw 4WD.
In fact, I did some Hp and torque to weight calculations and found that 3 have nearly the same within 5 hp or 5 ft-lbs torque.
That being a 2016 Lariat Scab 4WD 2.7L Ecoboost at around 5100 lbs with 325 HP and 375 ft-lbs torque, our 2017 Fusion SE FWD 2.0L Ecoboost at 3800 lbs with 245 HP and 275 ft-lbs torque, and a 2013 F150 XLT 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost at 5770 lbs with 365 Hp and 420 ft-lbs torque.
All should be right around 6.5 sec 0 - 60mph and 15.0 sec to the 1/4 mile looking at Motor Trend test times. Gearing may change that by a tenth second or so. Just a few tenths slower than my '16 F150 5.0L Screw 4WD.
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Yeh, our new Fusion feels pretty fast as well with the 2.0L Ecoboost. It has the same torque peak and Hp peak as the 2015 2.7L Ecoboost.
In fact, I did some Hp and torque to weight calculations and found that 3 have nearly the same within 5 hp or 5 ft-lbs torque.
That being a 2016 Lariat Scab 4WD 2.7L Ecoboost at around 5100 lbs with 325 HP and 375 ft-lbs torque, our 2017 Fusion SE FWD 2.0L Ecoboost at 3800 lbs with 245 HP and 275 ft-lbs torque, and a 2013 F150 XLT 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost at 5770 lbs with 265 Hp and 420 ft-lbs torque.
All should be right around 6.3 sec 0 - 60mph and 14.8 sec to the 1/4 mile. Gearing may change that by a tenth second or so. Just a few tenths slower than my '16 F150 5.0L Screw 4WD.
In fact, I did some Hp and torque to weight calculations and found that 3 have nearly the same within 5 hp or 5 ft-lbs torque.
That being a 2016 Lariat Scab 4WD 2.7L Ecoboost at around 5100 lbs with 325 HP and 375 ft-lbs torque, our 2017 Fusion SE FWD 2.0L Ecoboost at 3800 lbs with 245 HP and 275 ft-lbs torque, and a 2013 F150 XLT 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost at 5770 lbs with 265 Hp and 420 ft-lbs torque.
All should be right around 6.3 sec 0 - 60mph and 14.8 sec to the 1/4 mile. Gearing may change that by a tenth second or so. Just a few tenths slower than my '16 F150 5.0L Screw 4WD.
Yeh, our new Fusion feels pretty fast as well with the 2.0L Ecoboost. It has the same torque peak and Hp peak as the 2015 2.7L Ecoboost.
In fact, I did some Hp and torque to weight calculations and found that 3 have nearly the same within 5 hp or 5 ft-lbs torque.
That being a 2016 Lariat Scab 4WD 2.7L Ecoboost at around 5100 lbs with 325 HP and 375 ft-lbs torque, our 2017 Fusion SE FWD 2.0L Ecoboost at 3800 lbs with 245 HP and 275 ft-lbs torque, and a 2013 F150 XLT 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost at 5770 lbs with 265 Hp and 420 ft-lbs torque.
All should be right around 6.3 sec 0 - 60mph and 14.8 sec to the 1/4 mile. Gearing may change that by a tenth second or so. Just a few tenths slower than my '16 F150 5.0L Screw 4WD.
In fact, I did some Hp and torque to weight calculations and found that 3 have nearly the same within 5 hp or 5 ft-lbs torque.
That being a 2016 Lariat Scab 4WD 2.7L Ecoboost at around 5100 lbs with 325 HP and 375 ft-lbs torque, our 2017 Fusion SE FWD 2.0L Ecoboost at 3800 lbs with 245 HP and 275 ft-lbs torque, and a 2013 F150 XLT 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost at 5770 lbs with 265 Hp and 420 ft-lbs torque.
All should be right around 6.3 sec 0 - 60mph and 14.8 sec to the 1/4 mile. Gearing may change that by a tenth second or so. Just a few tenths slower than my '16 F150 5.0L Screw 4WD.
From another thread:
Interestingly enough, the 2.7l is actually the fastest accelerating engine of the lineup (at least to 60mph). According to Car & Driver, the 2.7l hits 60 mph over half a second faster than the 5.0, and is even quicker to 60 than the 3.5l:
2015 2.7l 0-60: 5.7 seconds
2015 3.5l 0-60: 5.8 seconds
2015 5.0l 0-60: 6.3 seconds
Gotta love the spool up of small turbos!
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Interestingly enough, the 2.7l is actually the fastest accelerating engine of the lineup (at least to 60mph). According to Car & Driver, the 2.7l hits 60 mph over half a second faster than the 5.0, and is even quicker to 60 than the 3.5l:
2015 2.7l 0-60: 5.7 seconds
2015 3.5l 0-60: 5.8 seconds
2015 5.0l 0-60: 6.3 seconds
Gotta love the spool up of small turbos!
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From another thread:
Interestingly enough, the 2.7l is actually the fastest accelerating engine of the lineup (at least to 60mph). According to Car & Driver, the 2.7l hits 60 mph over half a second faster than the 5.0, and is even quicker to 60 than the 3.5l:
2015 2.7l 0-60: 5.7 seconds
2015 3.5l 0-60: 5.8 seconds
2015 5.0l 0-60: 6.3 seconds
Gotta love the spool up of small turbos!
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Interestingly enough, the 2.7l is actually the fastest accelerating engine of the lineup (at least to 60mph). According to Car & Driver, the 2.7l hits 60 mph over half a second faster than the 5.0, and is even quicker to 60 than the 3.5l:
2015 2.7l 0-60: 5.7 seconds
2015 3.5l 0-60: 5.8 seconds
2015 5.0l 0-60: 6.3 seconds
Gotta love the spool up of small turbos!
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Plus there's only been one test of the 15+ 5.0L and it doesn't make any sense with power to weight ratios. Car and Driver 0 - 60 and 1/4 mile times are all over when compared to other reviews. Road and Track, and Motor Trend offer much more realistic and repeatable results. Looks like some driver error in those Car and Driver tests for both the 2.7L and the 5.0L.
That 2.7L was 6.5 seconds from Motor Trend for a comparable Lariat SuperCab 4WD that would weigh in the same as the other Supercrew XLT trucks.
Apples to Apples, 4WD to 4WD and weight to weight.
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Unless you have some sort of factory defect or drive like a jackass (burnouts, etc.), a moderate tune most likely won't cause you any issues. If you go get the "ZOMG MAKE ALL TEH HORSEPOWERS!!!!" tune, and stress things to the max, you may see problems.
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Of course, tires are expensive so this isn't done but once or twice to see what it can do.
The 3.5L Ecoboost testers I drove, didn't have off-the-line power to leave a patch. They would roll out slowly, drop the boost in late and hard, and bark the tires under much more throttle than the 5.0L. The earlier 3.5L Ecoboosts had wheel hop after the bark also.
BUT the 3.5L Ecoboost did this because it didn't have enough exhaust to provide the boost until you gave it lots of throttle. Normal.
I use to get wheel hop with the 2010 5.4L when the traction control seemed to fight with the limited slip differential on occasion. The 5.0L never had wheel hop.
Not quite sure why the ealier Ecoboosts had such bad wheel hop, the later 2016 Ecoboost didn't have wheel hop just a quick, short bark.
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Stage 3 offers a warranty package for their 5 Star tunes. I went with the 5 year 60k mile for mine.
Having said that, tuning your engine does not automatically void your entire warranty. Firstly the failure has to be related to the tune; they cannot deny you warranty on your power mirror for example because your truck is tuned. Secondly the onus is on Ford to prove that the tune was the cause of the failure. Of course guys have blown their engines but they were likely running very aggressive tunes. The ones you'll get from most reputable companies err on the cautious side.
I wanted the peace of mind so I spent the five hundred bucks with Stage 3 for the warranty. Cheap insurance.
Having said that, tuning your engine does not automatically void your entire warranty. Firstly the failure has to be related to the tune; they cannot deny you warranty on your power mirror for example because your truck is tuned. Secondly the onus is on Ford to prove that the tune was the cause of the failure. Of course guys have blown their engines but they were likely running very aggressive tunes. The ones you'll get from most reputable companies err on the cautious side.
I wanted the peace of mind so I spent the five hundred bucks with Stage 3 for the warranty. Cheap insurance.