Why'd I get a 111 code?
sounds like my problem... new tfi didnt fix it. tried a new coil, but before i could get it in, as i was looking at the bank before i went the parts store (and i even have bad eyes!), truck died in the middle of the road. couldn't restart this time, killed the battery, had to get a tow home. gotta find a jump or ride the bus to autozone to charge my battery tomorrow...
Looks like I'll be digging into this ignition system this weekend. I'll put my new distributor, coil, plugs and wires on and see what happens.
Ironicly enough, about a week ago I cleand the IAC and EGR. Removed them both gave em' a good soaking and put em' back on. Plus I Seafoamed through the brake booster vacuum line at the same time. I run Lucas Injector Cleaner with every tank so that's not a problem.
Maybe this is also a good time to do a compression test and get some numbers on my fuel system, including leak down.
I'll keep ya's posted.
Thanks for the idea's and insight so far....
Ironicly enough, about a week ago I cleand the IAC and EGR. Removed them both gave em' a good soaking and put em' back on. Plus I Seafoamed through the brake booster vacuum line at the same time. I run Lucas Injector Cleaner with every tank so that's not a problem.
Maybe this is also a good time to do a compression test and get some numbers on my fuel system, including leak down.
I'll keep ya's posted.
Thanks for the idea's and insight so far....
Last edited by ymeski56; May 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM.
Well if your splitting hairs... other than nothing, his problem is identical....

BTW, he also gave me a can of Motorcraft Spray Carb Cleaner, he swears it'll eat the chrome off your bumpers but, more importantly, it'll COMPLETELY clean the IAC and EGR. He said if I use it, they'll look like new, not just "better". I'll give it a shot and post results. If it's that good, y'all might want to get some....
*Fingers Crossed*
Last edited by hackersmovie; May 20, 2010 at 08:55 PM.
I'm changing the TPS first. I'll see if that does it. If not, MAF here I come!
He suspects while both sensors could be "in range", so as to not produce a code, both could be sending false readings to the computer, thus the hard starting/erratic idle. Kinda like the computer thinks I'm mashing the gas a bit while starting and after it's running. (that's how he explained it) It would also explain why it seems to clear up once it's warmed up. Which is the exact opposite of an ignition issue, where they normally fail once warm and run great cold.
He suspects while both sensors could be "in range", so as to not produce a code, both could be sending false readings to the computer, thus the hard starting/erratic idle. Kinda like the computer thinks I'm mashing the gas a bit while starting and after it's running. (that's how he explained it) It would also explain why it seems to clear up once it's warmed up. Which is the exact opposite of an ignition issue, where they normally fail once warm and run great cold.
Last edited by hackersmovie; May 20, 2010 at 11:38 PM.
I'm changing the TPS first. I'll see if that does it. If not, MAF here I come!
He suspects while both sensors could be "in range", so as to not produce a code, both could be sending false readings to the computer, thus the hard starting/erratic idle. Kinda like the computer thinks I'm mashing the gas a bit while starting and after it's running. (that's how he explained it) It would also explain why it seems to clear up once it's warmed up. Which is the exact opposite of an ignition issue, where they normally fail once warm and run great cold.
He suspects while both sensors could be "in range", so as to not produce a code, both could be sending false readings to the computer, thus the hard starting/erratic idle. Kinda like the computer thinks I'm mashing the gas a bit while starting and after it's running. (that's how he explained it) It would also explain why it seems to clear up once it's warmed up. Which is the exact opposite of an ignition issue, where they normally fail once warm and run great cold.
Also a little KA-KA on the MAF sensor wires would be enough to do it! You do have a K&N setup!
Last edited by ymeski56; May 21, 2010 at 12:10 PM.
It went against everything in me but, I broke down and bought the Ford replacement MSD cap & rotor, $30 and easier than putting my distributor in. I'll give it all a whirl and post results.
Thanks guys!
And so I did. Here's what I got:
Front tank:
KOEO - 35psi (remained there for over 5 mins after key turned off)
KOER - 30psi
Rear Tank:
KOEO - 38psi (remained there for over 5 mins after key turned off)
KOER - 30psi
So it would seem, while barely in spec, my fuel system is in spec. According to my Haynes Manual:
Engine Off PSI - 35-45 psi ( had 35 and 38)
Engine running vac hose connected - 30-45 psi (I had 30psi on both tanks)
I did not perform the engine running vac hose disconnected cuz' it passed, albeit barely, both of these tests.
Next: Replace TPS.
EDIT:
Checked TPS voltage KOEO - at rest it's .89 volts and max voltage is 4.63 volts, it also has a "hiccup" around 1.0 - 1.80 volts, plus will actually go from .89 to .91 to .88 volts as soon as you start to move the gas pedal. From what I've read it should be EXACTLY .98 volts at rest and some where around 4.90 volts at max. Hmm... perhaps this is one ***** in the armor? I'm going out to replace it and the cap, rotor, wires and plugs now and will post results after.
Front tank:
KOEO - 35psi (remained there for over 5 mins after key turned off)
KOER - 30psi
Rear Tank:
KOEO - 38psi (remained there for over 5 mins after key turned off)
KOER - 30psi
So it would seem, while barely in spec, my fuel system is in spec. According to my Haynes Manual:
Engine Off PSI - 35-45 psi ( had 35 and 38)
Engine running vac hose connected - 30-45 psi (I had 30psi on both tanks)
I did not perform the engine running vac hose disconnected cuz' it passed, albeit barely, both of these tests.
Next: Replace TPS.
EDIT:
Checked TPS voltage KOEO - at rest it's .89 volts and max voltage is 4.63 volts, it also has a "hiccup" around 1.0 - 1.80 volts, plus will actually go from .89 to .91 to .88 volts as soon as you start to move the gas pedal. From what I've read it should be EXACTLY .98 volts at rest and some where around 4.90 volts at max. Hmm... perhaps this is one ***** in the armor? I'm going out to replace it and the cap, rotor, wires and plugs now and will post results after.
Last edited by hackersmovie; May 22, 2010 at 10:16 AM.




