Originally Posted by iRub1Out

There's a reason that NO OEM brand goes above 5000k.

Even TRS won't sell 8000k, there's a reason for that. Because the light is garbage.

Originally Posted by MGD

Hi. Were yer Stock bulbs both burned out? Youngin', if you'd only spent a little time researching this it would be as evident as the nose on yer face that 8000K is significantly lower in actual lumen output as detected by the human eye than 4000-4300K. Hence - what you perceive, as opposed to what is actually the case are two entirely different things. A fresh OEM halogen bulb will produce more usable light than an 8000K bulb. Roughly the same lumens but the halogen light will be a more usable wavelength. (note - 8K it's NOT 100% brighter, lol). Throw in some rain, and it's literally night & day; water absorbs that wavelength and you are left with pitiful output - dangerously so. Oh, wait - it gets worse - as the 8000K bulb ages, it will color-shift and start climbing the kelvin scale and trend towards 9,000K - even more useless than it already is, lol. Pull up a chair, fire up yer 'puter, browse to www.hidplanet.com and begin yer edumacation - yer sorely lacking in same, as yer posts clearly illustrate. Good news - it can be fixed. Example: Standard OEM halogen 55W H13 = 1100lm (lumens) 4300k D2S Philips = 3200lm (lumens) 8000k D2S other = 1180lm (lumens) *(other bulb brand) Higher than 8000k, the light output significantly drops off, causing the light to be almost useless. good luck

Originally Posted by MGD

Hi.

Were yer Stock bulbs both burned out?

Youngin', if you'd only spent a little time researching this it would be as evident as the nose on yer face that 8000K is significantly lower in actual lumen output as detected by the human eye than 4000-4300K.

Hence - what you perceive, as opposed to what is actually the case are two entirely different things. A fresh OEM halogen bulb will produce more usable light than an 8000K bulb. Roughly the same lumens but the halogen light will be a more usable wavelength. (note - 8K it's NOT 100% brighter, lol).

Throw in some rain, and it's literally night & day; water absorbs that wavelength and you are left with pitiful output - dangerously so.

Oh, wait - it gets worse - as the 8000K bulb ages, it will color-shift and start climbing the kelvin scale and trend towards 9,000K - even more useless than it already is, lol.

Pull up a chair, fire up yer 'puter, browse to www.hidplanet.com and begin yer edumacation - yer sorely lacking in same, as yer posts clearly illustrate.

Good news - it can be fixed.

Example:

Standard OEM halogen 55W H13 = 1100lm (lumens)

4300k D2S Philips = 3200lm (lumens)
8000k D2S other = 1180lm (lumens) *(other bulb brand)

Higher than 8000k, the light output significantly drops off, causing the light to be almost useless.

good luck

Originally Posted by iRub1Out

Just beat ya to it!



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Originally Posted by il_duce

Haha, MGD. I think we are in the minority here. Why don't you recommend the 30,000k cosmic radiation, MGD special? I think you are holding out on people by telling them that 4300k is better so you can horde all of the 10,000k and up HIDs lights yourself.

Originally Posted by 03f15012

I had 8000k HIDs. Still to this day I'll say I wasted perfectly good money on that ****. Im back with halogen; Sylvania ZXE's to be precise. Still loving them.

Originally Posted by ak_cowboy

I feel like there should be a pNp Anonymous club...Mine name is Cowboy...I had 6000k in my halogen reflectors, now I have Mini H1s and realize what a d-bag I was....