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#622
Official HTT Greeter
Do any of y'all know the point in production when the payload rating sticker is made and attached?
I was at a non-Ford plant a few weeks ago. The stickers were attached right after the cab came out of the Paint Shop. There were no windows, seats, carpet, wiring, etc. Basically just a painted metal truck cab. That's when they stuck on the 2 door stickers. Then the truck went to Trim line to be fitted with the appropriate parts.
So I assume that means the number is calculated from a list similar to that fleet accessory weight chart that has been floating around this site for a few years. If that's the case, what's the accuracy of that number? +/- 100#? 300#?
Would be kinda interesting to weigh a bunch of these trucks right off the lot to see how much variance there is between the rated payload and the actual headroom between curb weight and GVWR.
I was at a non-Ford plant a few weeks ago. The stickers were attached right after the cab came out of the Paint Shop. There were no windows, seats, carpet, wiring, etc. Basically just a painted metal truck cab. That's when they stuck on the 2 door stickers. Then the truck went to Trim line to be fitted with the appropriate parts.
So I assume that means the number is calculated from a list similar to that fleet accessory weight chart that has been floating around this site for a few years. If that's the case, what's the accuracy of that number? +/- 100#? 300#?
Would be kinda interesting to weigh a bunch of these trucks right off the lot to see how much variance there is between the rated payload and the actual headroom between curb weight and GVWR.
#623
That's really interesting - so Ford made the new trucks out of aluminum to save weight, but then reduced the GVWR by 650lbs (comparing max tow to max tow) which basically puts both trucks back on the same playing field payload wise. Why would they reduce the GVWR by so much for 2015? I'd love to have 7700# with my max tow.
First of all, if they'd left the GVWR the same, most F150 configurations would have a higher payload than pretty much any similarly equipped F250 diesel. Wouldn't look good for your F250 lineup to appear "less capable" than your F150 lineup. Secondly, it allows them to make some slight GVWR increases here and there with no modifications in order to maintain their claim to having the most capable half ton truck. Considering there were no real structure changes that were load carrying between max tow and non max tow with the previous gen trucks AND considering that everything structural and load carrying has supposedly been improved with the current gen, I see no reason to believe that the current trucks can't safely and effectively load to a GVWR of 7700 pounds. It is possible that the suspension has been modified for a better ride with the new lower curb weights- but this can easily be beefed up. My current 2015 F250 is structurally identical in every single way to the F350 SRW (mine has the camper package), yet the sticker shows a CCC of 1500 less. Clearly no real argument could be made that my truck would be unsafe if loaded to the GVWR of the F350- at least not without therefore concluding that all SRW F350's are unsafe if loaded to GVWR.
#624
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Hi all -
I've made a bunch of updates to the spreadsheet, namely for hdpp150,mikeKR2015,dlbb,Stanner, TommyShwa,BarmanBeam, rliles1, patrickoneal.
The spreadsheet is now at 145 entries!
I've made a bunch of updates to the spreadsheet, namely for hdpp150,mikeKR2015,dlbb,Stanner, TommyShwa,BarmanBeam, rliles1, patrickoneal.
The spreadsheet is now at 145 entries!
#625
Here's my theory:
First of all, if they'd left the GVWR the same, most F150 configurations would have a higher payload than pretty much any similarly equipped F250 diesel. Wouldn't look good for your F250 lineup to appear "less capable" than your F150 lineup. Secondly, it allows them to make some slight GVWR increases here and there with no modifications in order to maintain their claim to having the most capable half ton truck. Considering there were no real structure changes that were load carrying between max tow and non max tow with the previous gen trucks AND considering that everything structural and load carrying has supposedly been improved with the current gen, I see no reason to believe that the current trucks can't safely and effectively load to a GVWR of 7700 pounds. It is possible that the suspension has been modified for a better ride with the new lower curb weights- but this can easily be beefed up. My current 2015 F250 is structurally identical in every single way to the F350 SRW (mine has the camper package), yet the sticker shows a CCC of 1500 less. Clearly no real argument could be made that my truck would be unsafe if loaded to the GVWR of the F350- at least not without therefore concluding that all SRW F350's are unsafe if loaded to GVWR.
First of all, if they'd left the GVWR the same, most F150 configurations would have a higher payload than pretty much any similarly equipped F250 diesel. Wouldn't look good for your F250 lineup to appear "less capable" than your F150 lineup. Secondly, it allows them to make some slight GVWR increases here and there with no modifications in order to maintain their claim to having the most capable half ton truck. Considering there were no real structure changes that were load carrying between max tow and non max tow with the previous gen trucks AND considering that everything structural and load carrying has supposedly been improved with the current gen, I see no reason to believe that the current trucks can't safely and effectively load to a GVWR of 7700 pounds. It is possible that the suspension has been modified for a better ride with the new lower curb weights- but this can easily be beefed up. My current 2015 F250 is structurally identical in every single way to the F350 SRW (mine has the camper package), yet the sticker shows a CCC of 1500 less. Clearly no real argument could be made that my truck would be unsafe if loaded to the GVWR of the F350- at least not without therefore concluding that all SRW F350's are unsafe if loaded to GVWR.
Whats interesting is when I shopped for my current truck I had looked at a 15 F250 powerstroke, nearly bought it until I found the mouse turds under the drivers seat and walked away. However I had looked at a couple XLT with tow packages. Both of the F150 XLT's had a higher payload than the F250.
#626
Senior Member
1024 lbs
#627
Senior Member
Do any of y'all know the point in production when the payload rating sticker is made and attached?
I was at a non-Ford plant a few weeks ago. The stickers were attached right after the cab came out of the Paint Shop. There were no windows, seats, carpet, wiring, etc. Basically just a painted metal truck cab. That's when they stuck on the 2 door stickers. Then the truck went to Trim line to be fitted with the appropriate parts.
So I assume that means the number is calculated from a list similar to that fleet accessory weight chart that has been floating around this site for a few years. If that's the case, what's the accuracy of that number? +/- 100#? 300#?
Would be kinda interesting to weigh a bunch of these trucks right off the lot to see how much variance there is between the rated payload and the actual headroom between curb weight and GVWR.
I was at a non-Ford plant a few weeks ago. The stickers were attached right after the cab came out of the Paint Shop. There were no windows, seats, carpet, wiring, etc. Basically just a painted metal truck cab. That's when they stuck on the 2 door stickers. Then the truck went to Trim line to be fitted with the appropriate parts.
So I assume that means the number is calculated from a list similar to that fleet accessory weight chart that has been floating around this site for a few years. If that's the case, what's the accuracy of that number? +/- 100#? 300#?
Would be kinda interesting to weigh a bunch of these trucks right off the lot to see how much variance there is between the rated payload and the actual headroom between curb weight and GVWR.
#628
Official HTT Greeter
But I've seen several scale sheets on this site that don't match the sticker.
I will also point out that the trucks I looked at had identical payloads I think it was 1040# or something like that. I do remember they were the same and it was rounded to the nearest 10#
#629
Senior Member
Yes, it's VIN'd and basically already built on paper.
But I've seen several scale sheets on this site that don't match the sticker.
I will also point out that the trucks I looked at had identical payloads I think it was 1040# or something like that. I do remember they were the same and it was rounded to the nearest 10#
But I've seen several scale sheets on this site that don't match the sticker.
I will also point out that the trucks I looked at had identical payloads I think it was 1040# or something like that. I do remember they were the same and it was rounded to the nearest 10#
#630
Senior Member
Year=2017, Trim=XLT, Drive=4x4, Cab=SCrew, Bed=6.5', Engine=3.5L EB, Axle=3.55 (locking), GVWR=7050#, Payload=1804#, Tow=11700#, Options=302A, Max Tow (53C), manual-fold power/heated tow mirrors w/spotlights
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