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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 12:26 AM
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1998 4.6l. I've got two bank 2, sensor 2 codes: P0157 and 0161. Have 12v at the sensor. Heater resistance is >1M.

Happen to have a downstream sensor from a 98 Ranger. Its resistance is 4.7 ohms, FWIW. Looks like it would fit except one of the nibs on the connector is in the wrong place.

Would like to cut off the 'wrong' nib and try it. OK to try, or bad idea?

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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 12:50 AM
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Yea that's the only difference, just shave it off. What I can't tell you is if the Ranger is compatible with the 150. You can't really go by a part number difference unless the harness length and connector are the same standard. That's because O2 part number changes could be for harness length or alignment nib on the connector only and not the sensor itself.

For the F150's all 4 sensors are identical except for that nib on the connector and harness length. Duty changes at the connector on the truck.

EDIT: By the way, I believe there is a stamped part # into the metal housing of the 02 body around the sensor. I think it's right where the wrench slides over if I remember right. That number is just the sensor type.

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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 09:51 AM
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Sounds like you're saying try it, but it may not work?

I thought I saw specs for the heater resistance somewhere, but can't find them now. Wild guess--that might be the main/only internal difference?

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Originally Posted by Jbrew
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For the F150's all 4 sensors are identical except for that nib on the connector and harness length. Duty changes at the connector on the truck...
I would not say identical.
OEM # for upstream is Motorcraft DY835, downstream is Motorcraft DY1093.
They physically look different on the O2 sensor part. No idea if that really makes a difference though, but if it did not, why would Ford make 2 seperate part numbers?
They may be interchangeable and still work fine though. Many aftermarket only show 1 plug for upper and lower (like this Bosch 15717, it looks like the OEM downstream sensor), yet Bosch also make a specific upper (15664) and lower (15718) sensor as well that look identical to OEM?

I know when I replaced the O2 sensors in my BIL truck, I went with OEM because I did not want to mess with them again (that pass side upstream is a royal pain to remove and reinstall).


To the OP, according to Amazon, your Ranger (which engine BTW?) seems to use the same upper sensor as the F150, but the lower is a different part number (can't seem to find an OEM number). Bosch 15719 is what is shown for lower, looks the same, just a longer cord. I am guessing your swapping the upstream sensor on the F150? I would try it and see.

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Originally Posted by tab a
Sounds like you're saying try it, but it may not work?

I thought I saw specs for the heater resistance somewhere, but can't find them now. Wild guess--that might be the main/only internal difference?

Thanks again.
Nope, try this again in other words. Have to listen closely for this to make sense.

F150 1997 - some 04's all V8 O2 Sensors are identical and interchangeable from front to back. Always have been. All you have to do is shave the nib off in the connector. That takes 1.2 seconds with a blade. Part number has absolutely nothing to do with the sensor itself.
For instance with my truck and because I run headers I have to run rear sensors in the front if I want a solid harness without running extensions and that's what I've for the last 10 years since the sensors are identical. I can't run upstreams sensors because the harness isn't long enough. Only rear sensor harnesses come with a longer harness. Part numbers referr ONLY to harness length and connector nid/guide location. The duty cycle per sensor is programmed via PCM. Your trucks tune.

This isn't a Ranger site, I'm not familiar with the Ranger. So I told you to check the number stamped on the sensor body. This is a different number other than the part number the sensor is sold under.
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by blupupher
I would not say identical.
OEM # for upstream is Motorcraft DY835, downstream is Motorcraft DY1093.
They physically look different on the O2 sensor part. No idea if that really makes a difference though, but if it did not, why would Ford make 2 seperate part numbers?
They may be interchangeable and still work fine though. Many aftermarket only show 1 plug for upper and lower (like this Bosch 15717, it looks like the OEM downstream sensor), yet Bosch also make a specific upper (15664) and lower (15718) sensor as well that look identical to OEM?

I know when I replaced the O2 sensors in my BIL truck, I went with OEM because I did not want to mess with them again (that pass side upstream is a royal pain to remove and reinstall).


To the OP, according to Amazon, your Ranger (which engine BTW?) seems to use the same upper sensor as the F150, but the lower is a different part number (can't seem to find an OEM number). Bosch 15719 is what is shown for lower, looks the same, just a longer cord. I am guessing your swapping the upstream sensor on the F150? I would try it and see.
This post proves that yes, -you can use the Ranger sensor for the F150.
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 01:24 PM
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Well my experiance has been that you cannot use a grey sensor in place of a blue one. People told me I could if i shaved off the tab but it didnt work. I still have them..
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jethat
Well my experiance has been that you cannot use a grey sensor in place of a blue one. People told me I could if i shaved off the tab but it didnt work. I still have them..
Well, this is getting interesting--which doesn't take much, given how little I know about o2 sensors!

The Ranger (3L) is gray, while the F150 is blue.

Also have an upstream from a 2000 4L Explorer. Lots of numbers, other than the Ford #, on them.

F150-- 864 08 02 followed by 982 (circled). Then 0 258 005 787/788
Ranger 865 18 91 followed by 982 circled. Then 0 258 005 791/792
Explorer 081 11 8 202 followed by 982 (not circled). ? ?58 006 033/034

I'll try it and see what happens.

Thanks to all.
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 02:33 PM
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I don't know what you guys are talking about, 02's aren't colored lol. They are Zinc coated.

If your taking about the connectors, They come in many colors, so you guys are color matching now lol. The majority of Bosch sensors started off being green with red wire insulators/sleeves, then they went to blue with white silicon harness sleeves, now they are white connectors with black or grey sleeves. I've seen grey and black. Do what you want,I spewed enough info lol...oh wait yes- yes 982 is you...it rings a bell here anyway

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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jethat
Well my experiance has been that you cannot use a grey sensor in place of a blue one. People told me I could if i shaved off the tab but it didnt work. I still have them..
What folks have told you is correct, always has been. Those must be some mutant connectors or...iduno, never heard of that problem jethat.
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