Haha, this thread is getting good. See what you did creedua?

Just kidding.

In all seriousness, HID's really should be installed using projectors. Not just because PnP kits tend to scatter light but also because you will make full use of the light the HID's put out.

Sure, PnP HID kits are brighter than factory halogens, but with projectors you will be able to focus the light where you need it and not as much at oncoming traffic.

...Now back to the bashing.

 

There are two types of burners, though. "S" burners are intended for use in projectors, "R" burners are intended for use in reflectors. "S" are intended to use the projector for beam cutoff, "R" have built in opacity in areas that are intended to create the cutoff. Some Mercedes have "R" type burners in reflector headlamps from the factory.

 

Well the PnP kits I'm seeing aparently must be of the "S" variety because I'm not seeing any kind of cutoff. Just good old fashioned blinding glare.

 

Yeah, I haven't seen a PnP "R" type bulb in an H13, it'd be nice if they did. I've found a few sites with other bulb types in an "anti glare" setup that accomplishes the same thing. I imagine if it works it would be a much better compromise to actually install in your vehicle.

 

I just checked my gma's Lincoln last nite and it definitely didn't have projectors.

Seems to me that if ford has them in Lincolns it should be able to get them for other fomoco vehicles.

 

So in conclusion:

Replacing your headlights with HID is always a better option, regardless of application. Though some view stock housings as an annoyance, others see it as an unnecessary expense in addition to the HID's themselves. I too use HID's in my stock housings, and very rarely get flashed (...by headlights...cars).

I don't personally see it being reasonable to spend upwards of $250+ for a set of goofy ricer looking housings that are far inferior to the stock ones anyway, just for the projector lens. Either way, it's all about personal preference and $$.

I look at it like this... Odds are that the driver coming at me wouldn't care if he were blinding me with his HID glare (hypothetically of course). We do live in a "me me me" world where drivers don't pay attention and care even less. I am indifferent. If glare affects you bad enough to cause an accident (God forbid) or in any other way disrupt your ability to drive safely, odds are you shouldn't be driving anyway.

That's my 1/2 page 2c.

 

Perhaps, but you also have to realize that most people won't actually flash you even if it is bothering them.

It is a better option, but it has to be done right. There are a lot of ideas out there that are good, but were just poorly implemented.

 

No, it's not about money and personal preference, it's about safety and respect. The latter apparently very few people in this thread seem to have.

The knowledge about HID lighting here is on the level of kindergarten reading ability.

 

If were so dumb go to another forum. Easy enough.

 

You're not dumb. Some people here just don't care to educate themselves.

BTW: It's we're, not were.