Makes more sense than the HD Payload Package having a thinner frame. Thanks.

 

The 8,400 lbs of trailer was only regarding a HD payload package SCrew, ao it fits. Thats the only truck I am talking about. Other F150s wouldn't apply, I agree.

All F-150s are not created equal. We are on the same page.

What do you tow? Why did you decide on the extra payload F150 vs the F250? Looking forward greatly to see how much better it tows being able to carry more of the trailer on the truck axles. Thanks for the reply.

 

If nothing else the HD payload package would help in court and legally cover you if it keeps you from going over GVWR and something bad happens.
I have read on here from a guy (with pics) that showed very little sag with the HD payload package and a heavy trailer, no weight distribution. So that part is covered.

 

I don't know if this helps at all but I have a f150 and f250. I tow some equipment with both about 9000 lbs. I will only use the f150 if the 250 is on on another job. It is way more stable at higher speeds, it does not squat near as much. You can tell as soon as you start driving that the 250 is designed to pull and haul a lot more.

 

Hoping it helps having more weight on the trucks axles and less on the towed vehicle. Seems unequal weights causes more swaying than anything else.

Great to hear about the sag. I'm guessing different springs and shocks? Did he say? Also heard about larger brakes? But that may have been from 2010 to 2011 and maybe between HD package or no package.

 

If the F150 had more payload and you could increase the tongue weight, do you think it would tow better? I wonder if the problem with the stability of the F150 comes into question because the F150, with tongue weight, weighs 7500+ lbs and the trailer is near 8000 lbs. If the truck could hold an extra 500lbs on the axles (with weight distribustion), putting it over 8000 lbs and decreasing the trailer weight to 7500 lbs (less than the truck), if the F150 would handle the load better.

 

I was referring to ride quality, stability and control. You could run a truck at max loading for quite some time keeping in mind that wear and tear will be greatly increased. Failure or required replacement of parts from wear is not a warranty issue.
Tow ratings for some US trucks are considered very conservative compared to "World" trucks sold elsewhere. I know that the Ranger falls into that group - I had one.
An F150 could tow 15,000 lbs or even more. Would ride quality suffer? Yes. Would control and safety be compromised? Yes.

I belong to a pop up trailer forum and it is widely agreed that the trip should be just as enjoyable as the camping experience. Many members pull pop ups weighing 2200 lbs to 3600 lbs with full size pickups or large SUV's that are rated to tow 6500 lbs or more. They do it for control and safety. You would probably be surprised at the number of people that use anti-sway devices and WDH's on pop ups.

A general rule is to tow at 80% of capacity.

So, my new question is, Why the preoccupation with the F150?
The 250 is a more capable truck, however slight it is.
The 350 leaves no questions, comments, doubts or what ifs. It leaves nothing open for discussion.

 

Another question, but related. The experts say a TT needs to have a tongue weight between 10-15%. If you can put the full 15%, which many F150s can't do due to payload, does it pull with less sway than just 10%?

 

Have had several F150s and the two previous had extra leafs in rear, better shocks and heaver load tires. Have had 3500 pounds in the bed many times and it rode fine at hwy speeds. If I can do that, safely (which I did), adding a smidge of extra tongue weight with those same mods would not be much of an issue.

I dont know about 10% tongue weight as I have always had more than that on mine to ensure I has no swaying. Thats not any fun to have a trailer sway.

 

Ya i think it would tow it better in my opinion, If you could increase the payload and tongue weight. My 150s are by no means unstable they toe fine and handle like they should. They just doesn't do it as good as my 250s. If that makes sense