Everything must be subtracted from the GCWR including the hitch, ball mount and spring bars. A class V (5) hitch will be required to get 1400 lb tongue weight.
If you plan on running at max. weights, you need to know what the true dry weight of the trailer is and what it includes.
It may not include the AC, battery, propane, spare, awning, etc. and some of that will be on the tongue.
When looking at tow ratings a driver and full tank of gas is usually all that is allowed in the truck.

 

A leaf spring was not mentioned. The bigger coolers are with the Max Tow and HDP Package. No different than previous years. The 7 lug wheels add most of the difference. Along with a different rear axle.

The thread is not a contest of whether or not Fords number are correct. They will back up their numbers with the warranty. Its whether the payload will make a difference in stability and comfort of ride. Thanks.

 

http://www.reese-hitches.com/learnin...towing-classes

Class IV hitches used for weight distributing are rated up to 14,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1400 lbs.

If you have 2,200 pounds of payload (150-180 lb driver and tank of gas, I weighed my truck) and a 1,400 lb tongue weight, then I would hope the driver wouldn't weigh so much that you can't use at least some of the extra 800 lbs. Even with heavy driver (say 100 lbs over) wife and two kids (say 250-300) then you have 400-450 lbs of payload left.

Would never tow without a weight distributing hitch. Again the thread is not about whether the truck can handle it. Fords engineers says it can. Its whether the extra payload, making the truck weigh more than the trailer less will help with stability and confort while towing vs weight of the chassis.

Its hypothetical, the trailer has a GVWR of 8500 lbs for this discussion. Don't need the real weight. I'm using the max allowed weight. Thanks for the responses.

 

Thats my point. These small differences will not add to better towing stability or performance over an identical truck w/o this package....

 

My bad on the hitch class required.
If this is all hypothetical then I will say yes, absolutely yes that a properly equipped, heavier truck will be more stable and comfortable whether the weight comes from the truck itself in stock form or by adding payload.

 

The question was would a higher payload, because of more weight on the trucks axles, add to stability. Not if the "small differences" increase performance. Thanks.

 

No worries. Thanks for the response. I think it would add to stability also since the truck (loaded down) would weigh more than the trailer, rather than the trailer weighing the same or more than the TV. Thanks again. If anyone knows more individuals with experience please ask. Looking for as many opinions as possible.

 

Both the F150 and F250 can pull virtually the same loads. The difference between the two is being able to control the load. I don't care what these trucks are rated for, 10,000 lbs is way too heavy for a half ton.

 

Look underneath both trucks and you will see the differences. Axles, rear end, springs, brakes, ect. Go bigger!

 

jcb,
Do you know what the UVW (curb) is for a 2012 fully tow/payload package equipped F150 is?
How does that number compare to the 2012 F250?
I wonder how much weight the truck gets compared to what it can haul.