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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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I started calling some out of state dealers and they said they can't sell an F150 to me because PA is now a green state?
When did this happen?
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Wait...so are you saying that PA does not allow their tax paying citizens to purchase an F150? or are they not allowed to purchase one that is out of state since it may not have the required emissions standards? Cause the first scenario sounds just like...communism?
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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Wow this is bull****, if that's the case!
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Uh, this sounds fairly ridiculous. I'm not buyin it.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Florida dealer said that out of state, non boarding states cannot sell a vehicle to a "green state"

Must buy from a Bordering state or same state.

Local dealer confirmed.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sword182
Cause the first scenario sounds just like...communism?
Hello, 1950? your political scare tactics are calling....


(I was born in the late 70's )
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Thats some bullsh*t!!!

Ron Paul 2012
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by zero419
I started calling some out of state dealers and they said they can't sell an F150 to me because PA is now a green state?
When did this happen?
Anybody have a link to the law?
PA is one of the 14 states with California emissions standards. You will not be able to register your new F150 truck unless it has a CA emissions sticker!

http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Wait...so are you saying that PA does not allow their tax paying citizens to purchase an F150? or are they not allowed to purchase one that is out of state since it may not have the required emissions standards? Cause the first scenario sounds just like...communism?

The OP did not word his thread in a clear manner; this also caused me some confusion when I first read it. It is the second scenario.

This evidently applies only to non-CA emissions vehicles. It is not applicable to intra-state in PA; where of course, you can purchase a truck.

California has had a similar law for years now, having to do with emissions control:



Before Buying a Vehicle From Out of State - Be Sure You Can Register It in California FFVR 29


The Bottom Line

If you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck or motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet California smog laws in order to be registered here. This includes certain diesel powered vehicles. DMV cannot accept an application to register a vehicle in California that does not qualify for registration (Health and Safety Codes [H&SC] §§43150 – 43156.)

What Is Considered a new Vehicle?

California considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business to be a new vehicle. This holds true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state.

Aren't all Vehicles California Certified?

Not all new vehicles are manufactured to be sold in California residents or businesses. Many manufacturers make vehicles to be sold in the other 49 states. These vehicles (49-State) are made with smog equipment that meets federal emission standards, but not California standards. California certified (50-State) vehicles are made to be sold to California residents.

Check the Label

To find out whether a car, truck or motorcycle is California certified, check the emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle check the frame or refer to your owner's manual. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California.

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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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So as long as it is 50 state legal, I can buy it anywhere?

Does anybody have a link to this law?
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