2013 EB Question
07-20-2012, 08:18 PM
#21
Senior Member
Yes, this is true.
I read something or was told by one of my sources a few months back, that there was a [significant] brake upgrade with the new 13's, and if I recall correctly, it was something like 30% larger surface area on the calipers and a change to the master cylinder etc..
Aside from that, even with the '12 EB FX4 I test drove a couple of months back; the ride and the feel of the truck was like night and day, compared to my '09 5.4 XLT, which when I purchased it, was like night and day better than my 2004 F-250, 6.2 XLT. Therefore, I assume the '13 will offer even more of that feeling!
07-20-2012, 10:29 PM
#22
Opinionated Blowhard
Originally Posted by TwinTurboFx4
Trans might be the same but different pcm programming. I know for sure there are different brake components. We had a 2013 labeled with sticky notes to show all the changes. And I'll say there were alot of sticky notes.
07-21-2012, 05:07 AM
#23
Just keep in mind that ALL of these Eco's have an issue with the Intercooler. The only reason everyone is not experiencing the issue is due to climate and driving habits.
If you took a "good" eco and gave it to someone who is having the bogging/shuddering issue, that eco would also exhibit those symptoms.
I myself will buy another Eco eventually because the power and feeling is not comparable on any 1/2 ton trucks on the market today. But I will be waiting for a permanent intercooler fix before that. As for the engine/turbos, seems like Ford actually got those things right and its unfortunate that the Intercooler is showing its ugly face on this hard work and engineering.
If you took a "good" eco and gave it to someone who is having the bogging/shuddering issue, that eco would also exhibit those symptoms.
I myself will buy another Eco eventually because the power and feeling is not comparable on any 1/2 ton trucks on the market today. But I will be waiting for a permanent intercooler fix before that. As for the engine/turbos, seems like Ford actually got those things right and its unfortunate that the Intercooler is showing its ugly face on this hard work and engineering.
07-21-2012, 09:36 AM
#24
IHMO, Ford has not tested for the IC condensation problems and fixed it for the real world of SE Texas early AM driving. They will never solve this problem until they genuinely understand the problem, and test for it heavily in the right conditions.
So far they have not done that. If they had tested for it, I would have seen them.
Until they do, I will never own another Ford EcoBoost.
Ford does have a serious problem and for me and many others in SE Texas it is turning out to be just as bad as the 6.0 diesel.
Some are now even reporting failures of “both” Cats (it is worse than having a cat choke on a fur ball), all as a result of the condensation (oil/water) from the IC and engine combustion of the crud.
So far they have not done that. If they had tested for it, I would have seen them.
Until they do, I will never own another Ford EcoBoost.
Ford does have a serious problem and for me and many others in SE Texas it is turning out to be just as bad as the 6.0 diesel.
Some are now even reporting failures of “both” Cats (it is worse than having a cat choke on a fur ball), all as a result of the condensation (oil/water) from the IC and engine combustion of the crud.
07-21-2012, 09:51 AM
#25
Senior Member
And generally, people can't figure out why so many don't buy American cars. IT's not the cars, it's the terrible dealerships like the one you describe. As for my opinion, I'd find a different dealer and let the GM or Owner of that dealership know why I won't be back. Imagine, the service dept. too busy to do service?
07-21-2012, 10:55 AM
#27
Senior Member
Bought my EB exactly a year ago. I love the truck. Have asked my service department a couple times if they could check for any updates that may need to go into my truck, and they just look puzzled and dismiss it. Yesterday, I took it in for oil change, and asked them to check for updates, and was told those mechanics were swamped and couldnt do it....but my oil was changed in 30 minutes.....am I missing something?
07-21-2012, 11:32 AM
#28
Senior Member
I'm confused how transmission, ride, brakes, etc... feeling "better" are in any way related to the original question of: Any significant changes to the Ecoboost for 2013? We're talking the engine....not the shell it's wrapped in. The two are more or less completely unrelated (contrary to what the 5 million posts with EB in the title would have you believe).
To the original poster: I wouldn't sweat it too much. Some have issues, but are a fraction of what's been sold. My 2012 has 22k miles already and I continue to love this motor. I look forward to my next one but in the meantime will continue to love this one.
To the original poster: I wouldn't sweat it too much. Some have issues, but are a fraction of what's been sold. My 2012 has 22k miles already and I continue to love this motor. I look forward to my next one but in the meantime will continue to love this one.
07-21-2012, 12:47 PM
#29
Keepin' the lights on!
As for mine, I like it. 7600 miles so far with no serious issues. Here in western NM we rarely have high humidity so I may never see that condensation issue here. However, we travel a lot, so I'm wondering if I will become a victim of poor engineering while driving through another state.
To the OP:
Where are you located? These days you take a gamble on anything you buy. Get what you want. I worked in the pick-up truck accessory market for 10+ years and I have seen lemons from every mfg.
07-22-2012, 11:35 AM
#30
IHMO, Ford has not tested for the IC condensation problems and fixed it for the real world of SE Texas early AM driving. They will never solve this problem until they genuinely understand the problem, and test for it heavily in the right conditions.
So far they have not done that. If they had tested for it, I would have seen them.
Until they do, I will never own another Ford EcoBoost.
Ford does have a serious problem and for me and many others in SE Texas it is turning out to be just as bad as the 6.0 diesel.
Some are now even reporting failures of “both” Cats (it is worse than having a cat choke on a fur ball), all as a result of the condensation (oil/water) from the IC and engine combustion of the crud.
So far they have not done that. If they had tested for it, I would have seen them.
Until they do, I will never own another Ford EcoBoost.
Ford does have a serious problem and for me and many others in SE Texas it is turning out to be just as bad as the 6.0 diesel.
Some are now even reporting failures of “both” Cats (it is worse than having a cat choke on a fur ball), all as a result of the condensation (oil/water) from the IC and engine combustion of the crud.
In retrospect, it would be interesting to put togehter some sort of information poll that asks those who have experienced the condensation issue where they live. If we see that 90% of these problems are attributed to areas with high humidity, or some other environmental factor, that would help bring some clarity to the issue. Perhaps this would suggest that someone with an EB who lives in CA may never experience the problem, but doesn't mean they have a "trouble free" vehicle, just means they don't drive in conditions where the problem would show up.