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08-08-2018, 02:00 PM
#11
I actually sell and recommend Second Skin Audio sound and vibration dampening products. I also make custom door covers for that large window opening to help with better sound. PM me if interested.
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08-08-2018, 02:01 PM
#12
Originally Posted by nineball
i *highly* suggest you dampen your doors (i.e. dynamat) and "seal" them up as well. this will give you a huge improvement in response, even with the stock speakers.
08-09-2018, 09:40 AM
#13
forgot to post this:
www.sounddeadenershowdown.com
those are the ultimate products for dampening/quieting your ride. dynamat, second skin, hushmat, etc are all basically the same product but don's are two steps above them all.
www.sounddeadenershowdown.com
those are the ultimate products for dampening/quieting your ride. dynamat, second skin, hushmat, etc are all basically the same product but don's are two steps above them all.
08-09-2018, 02:17 PM
#14
Nineball you should see what Second Skin products are like before making that claim. I've compared pretty much all brands and there are reasons why I'll stick with Second Skin Audio stuff.
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08-09-2018, 06:19 PM
#15
i have done countless builds over the last 20+ years from basic speaker installation to projects for SEMA. i have used everything from the original asphalt dynamat to products offered today, including second skin even before Ant sold the company, and done concrete installations for SPL vehicles. second skin, dynamat, hushmat, etc. are all the same product - a butyl-based product with a metal layer to dissipate. don's products use the same materials but their construction, and mass, are superior to second skin.
you are a dealer and you are here to push the products you sell.
there is nothing wrong with that, it's part of forum life. you paid your fee to the admin and bought the right to advertise here, both in posts and signatures. being a dealer though makes you biased towards what you sell, and rightly so. i would expect nothing less than you pushing the products you sell, you have a business to run and need to make money just like everyone else in the world. i am not a retailer of products so i can give my unbiased opinion about any of them based on my use and experience, and that's what i am doing. there is nothing wrong with second skin products or dynamat or hushmat or any similar product, and they all do the same thing in the end. i have found that don's products (the link i gave) are superior to others. as the site name suggests he started out just doing reviews of various products for an unbiased opinion, i.e. he was not selling anything, just testing and reporting the results. through that he was able to see what particular things worked and what didn't, and where improvements could be made. he then took the next step and did just that - produced a superior product.
Last edited by nineball; 08-09-2018 at 06:23 PM.
08-09-2018, 07:50 PM
#16
Originally Posted by nineball
why would you assume i don't know about second skin products after i mentioned them? you know what "assume" really means, right?
i have done countless builds over the last 20+ years from basic speaker installation to projects for SEMA. i have used everything from the original asphalt dynamat to products offered today, including second skin even before Ant sold the company, and done concrete installations for SPL vehicles. second skin, dynamat, hushmat, etc. are all the same product - a butyl-based product with a metal layer to dissipate. don's products use the same materials but their construction, and mass, are superior to second skin.
you are a dealer and you are here to push the products you sell.there is nothing wrong with that, it's part of forum life. you paid your fee to the admin and bought the right to advertise here, both in posts and signatures. being a dealer though makes you biased towards what you sell, and rightly so. i would expect nothing less than you pushing the products you sell, you have a business to run and need to make money just like everyone else in the world. i am not a retailer of products so i can give my unbiased opinion about any of them based on my use and experience, and that's what i am doing. there is nothing wrong with second skin products or dynamat or hushmat or any similar product, and they all do the same thing in the end. i have found that don's products (the link i gave) are superior to others. as the site name suggests he started out just doing reviews of various products for an unbiased opinion, i.e. he was not selling anything, just testing and reporting the results. through that he was able to see what particular things worked and what didn't, and where improvements could be made. he then took the next step and did just that - produced a superior product.
i have done countless builds over the last 20+ years from basic speaker installation to projects for SEMA. i have used everything from the original asphalt dynamat to products offered today, including second skin even before Ant sold the company, and done concrete installations for SPL vehicles. second skin, dynamat, hushmat, etc. are all the same product - a butyl-based product with a metal layer to dissipate. don's products use the same materials but their construction, and mass, are superior to second skin.
you are a dealer and you are here to push the products you sell.there is nothing wrong with that, it's part of forum life. you paid your fee to the admin and bought the right to advertise here, both in posts and signatures. being a dealer though makes you biased towards what you sell, and rightly so. i would expect nothing less than you pushing the products you sell, you have a business to run and need to make money just like everyone else in the world. i am not a retailer of products so i can give my unbiased opinion about any of them based on my use and experience, and that's what i am doing. there is nothing wrong with second skin products or dynamat or hushmat or any similar product, and they all do the same thing in the end. i have found that don's products (the link i gave) are superior to others. as the site name suggests he started out just doing reviews of various products for an unbiased opinion, i.e. he was not selling anything, just testing and reporting the results. through that he was able to see what particular things worked and what didn't, and where improvements could be made. he then took the next step and did just that - produced a superior product.
08-09-2018, 11:31 PM
#17
Senior Member
Actually I'm set on insulation.
The speakers of now days are by far a whole new animal.
Back in the days (Early 80's) of Kenwood and Alpine not much else was spoken.
The speakers of now days are by far a whole new animal.
Back in the days (Early 80's) of Kenwood and Alpine not much else was spoken.
08-10-2018, 05:18 PM
#19
I appreciate the feedback. We may agree to disagree. I do believe his test was perhaps biased especially since he is selling products now as well. It's a smart marketing move to conduct tests, produce outcomes, and then claim to make a better product to smash the competition and then sell said products.
I'm completely open to trying different products and continue to do so. SDS uses the same materials as Second Skin Audio so not sure exactly how they differ much. I do like how Second Skin offers more product variations and that's what sets them apart aside from using thicker materials compared to others. I do feel that the more mass rule applies regarding soundproofing. That is the one area that SDS doesn't really agree with. I understand the concept of diminishing returns but starting off with thicker material significantly helps with dampening in general. Perhaps stuff I've received from them were early samples and they've improved since then. I'm still happy with my stuff.
To each their own, please continue to use SDS if that makes you happy.
I'm completely open to trying different products and continue to do so. SDS uses the same materials as Second Skin Audio so not sure exactly how they differ much. I do like how Second Skin offers more product variations and that's what sets them apart aside from using thicker materials compared to others. I do feel that the more mass rule applies regarding soundproofing. That is the one area that SDS doesn't really agree with. I understand the concept of diminishing returns but starting off with thicker material significantly helps with dampening in general. Perhaps stuff I've received from them were early samples and they've improved since then. I'm still happy with my stuff.
To each their own, please continue to use SDS if that makes you happy.
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Brands we sell include: Kicker, NavTV, PAC, CARiD, Dayton, Second Skin, Audio Control, Skar Audio, JL Audio, Focal and more.PM me for special pricing as our contracts do not allow for posting prices publicly.
08-14-2018, 01:36 PM
#20
I appreciate the feedback. We may agree to disagree. I do believe his test was perhaps biased especially since he is selling products now as well. It's a smart marketing move to conduct tests, produce outcomes, and then claim to make a better product to smash the competition and then sell said products.